Wednesday, May 10th 2023
AMD Marketing Compares Last-Generation GPUs: Radeon RX 6800 vs NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
As we await the launch of AMD's remaining lineup of Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs like RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, etc., AMD's marketing department is comparing last-generation products against each other. Sasa Marinkovic, Senior Director of Gaming Marketing at AMD, has posted a Tweet that initially claimed to compare AMD Radeon RX 6800 16 GB gaming performance versus NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB card in ray tracing and rasterization. However, the follow-up Tweet cleared that the chart is a comparison for rasterization performance only, and no ray tracing has been enabled. In an odd move to compare last-generation solutions, it is logical to do so from a price perspective, as both GPUs can be found at relatively the same price point at retailers like Newegg.
As far as the performance, the chart shows a comparison of the average FPS at 1440p. In titles like Valorant, Radeon RX 6800 can achieve 31% higher FPS. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 was only faster in Metro Exodus, GTA V, and Dota 2, while the remaining titles benefitted Radeon RX 6800. You can check the chart below.
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Sasa Marinkovic (Twitter)
As far as the performance, the chart shows a comparison of the average FPS at 1440p. In titles like Valorant, Radeon RX 6800 can achieve 31% higher FPS. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 was only faster in Metro Exodus, GTA V, and Dota 2, while the remaining titles benefitted Radeon RX 6800. You can check the chart below.
56 Comments on AMD Marketing Compares Last-Generation GPUs: Radeon RX 6800 vs NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
The RX6800XT was put against the 3080
Prices might be outdated though:
and with RT, it's basically the same difference from raster, just reversed:
Also, notice how they try to make it look like all that performance is because of more VRAM.
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I wish I own a Sapphire Nitro too but I haven't been able to get my hands on one but if I am going Sapphire again it's going to be 7900 XT/XTX if I have the money but I don't at the moment sadly :(
Here's a hint, pricing matters.
For a 7600 card below 300$ 8GB is fine and does not invalidate their statements or make "AMD marketing is something else".
Sometimes I question the intelligence of some people.
Sad thing is that this signals that AMD won't be releasing anything near the same performance level as the 6800 any time soon.
One might be wrong to think that AMD is on average 13% faster with RT-on across large set of titles (that many of them don`t have RT at all...).
So pathetically illustrated. I don`t even pay attention to the probably specifically selected titles, unless those are the top 32 playable\currently selling games at steam or something like that- which I doubted.
Also, they kind of playing a 2 years game as 6000 and 3000 gen are quite over now.
The real shame thing is that they really do have good product to show off, but choose a misleading and statistical-trick-style (aka PR) way to convey it.
It is up to 31% faster at some titles and in the same time up to 9% slower* in other titles on raster. With RT-on they up to 30% slower*, no win in that front so practically they are both 31-30% faster and slower at the same time.
*TPU 144P data
Why do they enter the RT dungeon?
Why not just stick to "13% faster on average with double the memory at the same cost" and maybe add at a lower power consumption (if they must, I would avoid it). So much better that this highly inaccurate data that above all put them in bad light imo.
6800 = 3070
6800 xt = 3080
Maybe this is happening on several territories and AMD cannot lower the 6800 price any more, and that's where this marketing piece comes in.
This one is so lame.
Even when AMD is lowering the price some people thinks it's wrong! :roll:
High prices: "They're greedy!"
Prices lowered: "Oh, they're trying to sell more = greed!"
Their most important segment is a no show and the halo practically flopped, so they're propping up their existing product line. And we all know what RDNA 2's RT capabilities are like; and that is: shoddy.I can't see overstock clearance at near MSRP levels for 3 year old hardware as a generous or charitable act. Not to mention most RX 6800 stock has exhausted at this point, considered it is a low quality Navi 21 with 25% of the processor fused off. AMD makes the other cards and those that are no good become 6800s... After making them for so long, after multiple steppings and chip revisions, yields must be pretty good which in turn means less 6800 quality dies. Much less.
It's pointless marketing they deserve no praise for.
What Everyone wants is an ultrabook with AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix= LPDDR5 + RDNA 3 + USB 4.0 + HDMI 2.1 + artificial intelligence with XDNA architecture developed by Xilinx and all at 4nm vs 10nm from Intel.
With RDNA 3 + FidelityFX Super Resolution 3.0 you can play AAA Games and render 3D and videos, no need for graphics that consume and reduce performance.
Where are the OEMs that do not bet on the best processor for laptops AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix. Where ????