Sunday, May 21st 2023

Alleged Logitech G Pro X Hyperlight Wireless Gaming Mouse Appears Online

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Logitech's competitive "G" gaming brand released a short teaser video on Friday (May 19) that alludes to an upcoming next gen product - with a cryptic message: "Built with Pros. Made for you. 05.24.2023." Gaming mouse enthusiasts were quick to leap into speculation mode and predicted that Logitech is set to reveal a successor to the G Pro X (GPX) Superlight (weighing in at 61-63 g) wireless gaming mouse - this model and its (sort of) predecessor 2018's Logitech G Pro Wireless (GPW) have been widely adopted by competitive multiplayer gamers. Others have tempered expectations, and reckon that a new lineup of gaming-oriented headphones is incoming.

The GPX and GPW models have topped mouse popularity charts consistently for the past four years, but hardcore FPS-heads have long wondered when Logitech would eventually catch up with the likes of Razer in terms of cutting-edge sensor and wireless technology. A retail listing on China's online shopping platform, Taobao, has seemingly broken Logitech's (intended?) teaser marketing method - leaked images show a new wireless model called "GPRO X Hyperlight," along with an alleged unit weight of 49 grams, a 35K Hero Sensor, an 8 Khz LIGHTSPEED wireless polling rate, and Lightforce hybrid switches. The Taobao page has since disappeared but the information has been preserved and shared on social media and Reddit. Debates have raged about the authenticity of this leak, so the images and spec details should be taken with a grain of salt.
Sources: MouseReview Reddit, Logitech G Tweet

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27 Comments on Alleged Logitech G Pro X Hyperlight Wireless Gaming Mouse Appears Online

#1
Zunexxx
Tbh, I would be happier if they upgrade their g915 keyboard and g pro x headset. The keyboard hasn't been updated for more than 3 years afaik and the headset needs an overhaul as well.
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#2
evernessince
Seems Logitech have completely forgotten to update the G305 at all these last 2 mice generations. Odd given it was one of their most popular models.
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#3
Zunexxx
evernessinceSeems Logitech have completely forgotten to update the G305 at all these last 2 mice generations. Odd given it was one of their most popular models.
It's weird they chose to update the super light which isn't that old at all
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#4
T0@st
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ZunexxxIt's weird they chose to update the super light which isn't that old at all
The Superlight wasn't a huge upgrade over the original - they simply got rid of the right side switches, bunged in 20 million click-rated primary (MiC) Omrons, and reduced its weight. The core sensor and wireless tech are unchanged from the 2018 model.
This (rumored) Hyperlight looks to be taking on Razer's Viper V2 Pro, judging from the basic set of specifications.
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#5
trsttte
Hopefully they finally move to USB-C, that would be a more meaningfull upgrade in my book than 10-20g lighter.
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#6
erocker
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ZunexxxIt's weird they chose to update the super light which isn't that old at all
They love the premium price they put on these... and they tend to sell well.
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#7
T0@st
News Editor
erockerThey love the premium price they put on these... and they tend to sell well.
The funny thing is that the G305 was quietly updated with Logitech's full fat (16/25K) Hero Sensor, but its performance is restricted through firmware. It'd be interesting to see the different profit margins (G305 vs. G Pro X) considering the shared central technology.
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#8
gffermari
I had a Logitech G Pro mouse which started double clicking. Then my G513 Carbon keyboard started double typing.
I got rid of both and purchased a Razer Viper which survives even on my 2 years old son's hands.
...I haven't bought a replacement for the G513 yet - I'm using a Logitech K540 taken from work.

To be fair, I use a Logitech MX Master mouse for work and it's working perfectly the last 6-7 years.
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#9
claster17
trsttteHopefully they finally move to USB-C, that would be a more meaningfull upgrade in my book than 10-20g lighter.
Very likely as the G502X already has USB-C and there is also the upcoming enforcement of USB-C in the EU.
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#10
R-T-B
evernessinceSeems Logitech have completely forgotten to update the G305 at all these last 2 mice generations. Odd given it was one of their most popular models.
I bought a g305 recently and still love it. Other than the switches being rated a bit low on clicks, not sure what they'd need to even update for me, lol.
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#11
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
trsttteHopefully they finally move to USB-C, that would be a more meaningfull upgrade in my book than 10-20g lighter.
Yep, moving to type C on my Viper V2 Pro was great.

Micro USB can go to hell at this point, having one cable to charge literally any of my devices, laptops, phones etc is the way.

I still have a seven year old Bose Soundlink Revolve+ that uses micro USB, but that's the last of the holdouts.
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#12
evernessince
R-T-BI bought a g305 recently and still love it. Other than the switches being rated a bit low on clicks, not sure what they'd need to even update for me, lol.
Sensor wise if you are just doing basic things it should be sufficient but most other high end gaming mice are going 4K and 8K wireless and have lower latency. What I do find very significant is the weight. I have a P305, which is just a custom G305 with a lightweight shell, and the weight reduction for 92 grams to 52 grams makes a massive difference. Even just for desktop use the lower weight just makes using it so much more pleasant.
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#13
bonehead123
gffermariTo be fair, I use a Logitech MX Master mouse for work and it's working perfectly the last 6-7 years.
Yep, all of my G613's & MX Masters (5 each) are coming up on 5 years old, neveranottaproblemo both @work & home :D
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#14
R-T-B
evernessinceSensor wise if you are just doing basic things it should be sufficient but most other high end gaming mice are going 4K and 8K wireless and have lower latency.
Don't and have never thought 4k or 8k were worth the added CPU usage... I also personally don't mind a heavy mouse at all, so... meh preferences.

I think the latency is actually fairly competitive for a 1000hz wireless mouse.
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#15
ymdhis
Oh if they could only make their desktop app so superlight as well.
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#16
Litzner
ymdhisOh if they could only make their desktop app so superlight as well.
I can't remember the name of it now, but they do have some lightweight software for their mice just to change the settings. I don't think it even has to be installed. I believe it was made for the pro scene, so they can easily change settings for their mice on on tournament computers.
R-T-BDon't and have never thought 4k or 8k were worth the added CPU usage... I also personally don't mind a heavy mouse at all, so... meh preferences.

I think the latency is actually fairly competitive for a 1000hz wireless mouse.
I think the big benefit of higher polling rates is for high refresh rate displays more then latency. When you can get more updates from the mouse you get a smoother motion when doing fast swipes on high refresh rate displays. I think 8K is likely overkill for this scenario at the moment though. 2k or 4k will likely suffice just fine.
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#17
akumu
ymdhisOh if they could only make their desktop app so superlight as well.
They have one. Its called the Logitech Onboard Memory Manager. No need for the app.
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#18
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Idk I miss how durable the MX510 was, I jumped to Roccatt in 2014 due to how cheap the current logitech units feel.
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#19
evernessince
R-T-BDon't and have never thought 4k or 8k were worth the added CPU usage... I also personally don't mind a heavy mouse at all, so... meh preferences.

I think the latency is actually fairly competitive for a 1000hz wireless mouse.
Top gaming mice shave off about 1.6ms of click latency at the same 1000 Hz polling rate (mostly from improvements to the switch de-bounce, pre-travel, ect. The G305 is indeed fairly competitive with more modern mice, at least in regards to M1 and M2, which have very little pre-travel. The side buttons, which don't matter as much, don't quite fair as well. The sensor can't track quite as well as newer sensors but that's not a problem in most cases. Ultimately shape is the most important factor for any mouse and how it feels to you. I just wish there were more mice (or a newer version of) the G305.

I also wish they'd bring back the lighter clicking earlier version of the G305. Sometime after the first 3 years of production they changed something that increased the force required to actuate M1 and M2.
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#20
Synthwave
And ofc it's not a 50-55 grams G305 Superlight.


gg no re
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#21
R-T-B
LitznerI think the big benefit of higher polling rates is for high refresh rate displays more then latency. When you can get more updates from the mouse you get a smoother motion when doing fast swipes on high refresh rate displays. I think 8K is likely overkill for this scenario at the moment though. 2k or 4k will likely suffice just fine.
I mean you are still exceeding the displays refresh rate with anything greater than 250hz so smoothness should honestly be a nonissue. Maybe it's preference but I'd prefer the cpu savings of 1000hz.
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#23
trsttte
R-T-BI mean you are still exceeding the displays refresh rate with anything greater than 250hz so smoothness should honestly be a nonissue. Maybe it's preference but I'd prefer the cpu savings of 1000hz.
And given how 250hz is more the exception, with ~150hz being much more common, 1000hz polling is still close-ish to 10x the display. I'd definitely would prefer to save cpu cycles, 8k polling is pretty insane.
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#24
Litzner
R-T-BI mean you are still exceeding the displays refresh rate with anything greater than 250hz so smoothness should honestly be a nonissue. Maybe it's preference but I'd prefer the cpu savings of 1000hz.
You would think that is the case, but it is not, the intervals are not in lock step with the monitor. Blurbusters did a whole write up on why higher hz mice are needed, I can't find the specific article at the moment, but here is their opinion.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1448174407067873286
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#25
R-T-B
LitznerYou would think that is the case, but it is not, the intervals are not in lock step with the monitor. Blurbusters did a whole write up on why higher hz mice are needed, I can't find the specific article at the moment, but here is their opinion.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1448174407067873286
I honestly can say if I haven't noticed it on my 120hz monitor I really don't think I need a table proving to me I need an upgrade. Ignorance in this case saves cpu cycles.

Also, lol at believing any jitter less than 1ms could possibly be detected by a human.

If they really want to fix this "issue" the way to do it would be to lock the sensor poll to the monitor refresh rate. But big numbers sell.
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