Thursday, July 13th 2023

Windows 11 Update Fixes In-game Stuttering Problems for High Polling Rate Mice

There appears to be a faction of hardcore PC gamers within the Microsoft Windows software engineering team—as evidenced in a developer blog post from late May. The section relating to "Reduced game stutter with high report rate mice" provided an early preview for improvements recently rolled out in a Windows 11 update (KB5028185 issued on July 11th). This week's fix "improves your computer's performance when you use a mouse that has a high report rate for gaming." Gamers running PCs on Windows 10 (or earlier) are—unfortunately—missing out on this latest and greatest feature.

Microsoft's blog stated: We know gamers hate stutter, and we're fixing issues throughout Windows so that an untimely frame-freeze won't take gamers out of their immersive experiences. Gamers love to push their systems to the limit in search of the best experiences in-game. Many also use sensitive, high DPI, high report rate mice to shave milliseconds off their response times and increase precision. At the same time, the world of gaming is more connected than ever with gamers relying on an increasing number of background apps while playing, like voice chat, streaming, apps for configuring your keyboard, mouse, or graphics card, and more. The Windows input stack was being pushed to its limits with high report rate mice and their input being delivered to not just the game, but also multiple background processes. In turn, that caused a significant amount of time processing input rather than providing as many cycles as possible for rendering the game experience."
The entry continued: "We set out to reduce the amount of processing time it took to handle input requests by throttling and coalescing background raw mouse listeners and capping their message rate. Prior to these changes, we observed on a Surface Laptop Studio with a 1000 Hz mouse, a test bed of background listeners, and popular games that there was significant stutter. After the improvements, on the same setup, we now deliver a smooth, uninterrupted gaming experience and preserve the low latency, high precision input experience in games while being efficient with input for background listeners!"
Several high polling rate enthusiasts have provided positive feedback on the /MouseReview subreddit, following the discovery of KB5028185's beneficial effects—well heeled owners of high-end Razer gaming mice and HyperPolling Wireless dongle claim that they are no longer experiencing stuttering and juddering issues in several fast-paced first-person shooters, when selecting polling rates of 2000, 4000 and even 8000 Hz.
Sources: Windows Developer Blog, MouseReview Subreddit
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4 Comments on Windows 11 Update Fixes In-game Stuttering Problems for High Polling Rate Mice

#1
chrcoluk
Same trick as the timer resolution optimisation in 2004 builds and newer (that caps timers for apps that havent called it specifically, win 11 also got a further improvement on this which I think hasnt been reported that all bg apps in win 11 are throttled on timers regardless if they call or not). These are some nice tricks been done here, selling points for 11.

learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/timeapi/nf-timeapi-timebeginperiod
Prior to Windows 10, version 2004, this function affects a global Windows setting. For all processes Windows uses the lowest value (that is, highest resolution) requested by any process. Starting with Windows 10, version 2004, this function no longer affects global timer resolution. For processes which call this function, Windows uses the lowest value (that is, highest resolution) requested by any process. For processes which have not called this function, Windows does not guarantee a higher resolution than the default system resolution.


Starting with Windows 11, if a window-owning process becomes fully occluded, minimized, or otherwise invisible or inaudible to the end user, Windows does not guarantee a higher resolution than the default system resolution. See SetProcessInformation for more information on this behavior.
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#2
Chomiq
TPU comparison would be helpful. Compare W11 with KB to W11 without KB and W10 on the latest version.
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#3
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
Downloading it now and will test it in Apex Legends:
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#4
Minus Infinity
Good way to force people into Win 11, deprive Win 10 of features that could be just as easily implemented.
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