Wednesday, July 19th 2023
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Review—Not
NVIDIA today launched the 16 GB version of the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti "Ada" graphics card to no fanfare. Essentially a memory variant of the RTX 4060 Ti with no other changes in the specs sheet, the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB commands a $100 premium (25%) over the regular RTX 4060 Ti for double the memory size, albeit at the same 128-bit memory bus width, and the same 18 Gbps memory speed. The idea behind the card is that the larger memory should help in scenarios where the 8 GB of memory is found to limit performance. It would've been fun to test this theory if only we had cards to review—we didn't.
NVIDIA's own presentation lists just two games that show gains, and that's probably the best-case.
If you've seen our coverage of the original RTX 4060 Ti or RTX 4060, you'll notice that we've tested 8 to 10 of each on launch day, covering almost every AIC partner. With the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB, we were ready to repeat this feat, and cleared our calendars for the launch, except nothing came through. We talked to all the partners, and friends in the industry. We learned that neither NVIDIA nor the partners are sampling the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB. We did try to arrange samples through back-channels, which turned out to be a bust, too, nobody wanted to touch these cards. To prevent those reviewers who could somehow score cards in partnership with retailers, NVIDIA ensured there was no driver available until earlier today. Without drivers, there's no way for anyone to test the card, and it shows—we've scoured the web, and nobody has a review. There should be cards available in retail already, but only listings with "out of stock", "coming soon" have appeared so far. We do intend to buy one off the shelf and test it for you with the first available driver. As of this writing, we cannot find any of these cards in the online retail.
Update 15:16 UTC: We've reached out to several shops here in Germany, they all confirmed that "the embargo expired today at 3 pm", but also mentioned that "the on-shelf availability date is unknown".
Update Jul 19th: First merchants in Germany have received a handful of cards, there's still no stock in UK or USA.
Update Jul 24th: We've bought a RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB in retails and posted our full in-depth review here.
If you've seen our coverage of the original RTX 4060 Ti or RTX 4060, you'll notice that we've tested 8 to 10 of each on launch day, covering almost every AIC partner. With the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB, we were ready to repeat this feat, and cleared our calendars for the launch, except nothing came through. We talked to all the partners, and friends in the industry. We learned that neither NVIDIA nor the partners are sampling the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB. We did try to arrange samples through back-channels, which turned out to be a bust, too, nobody wanted to touch these cards. To prevent those reviewers who could somehow score cards in partnership with retailers, NVIDIA ensured there was no driver available until earlier today. Without drivers, there's no way for anyone to test the card, and it shows—we've scoured the web, and nobody has a review. There should be cards available in retail already, but only listings with "out of stock", "coming soon" have appeared so far. We do intend to buy one off the shelf and test it for you with the first available driver. As of this writing, we cannot find any of these cards in the online retail.
Update Jul 19th: First merchants in Germany have received a handful of cards, there's still no stock in UK or USA.
Update Jul 24th: We've bought a RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB in retails and posted our full in-depth review here.
71 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Review—Not
TLDR, ignore pricing during the ETH boom, it wasn't real pricing, either at MSRP or street prices.
And I agree that it seems these companies lost their interest to offer new products with at least sufficient real performance upgrade.
The more we go forward, the more people will use relatively old products - such as the released in the 2017 - 2020 time frame.
Strix is more expensive than several 4070 which are 30% faster. Bingo! Nvidia has released this card to try to push buyers towards 4070.
Last chance to buy 6800XT for similar price like 4060Ti, the same amount of VRAM, and it's a 4K entry card.
.....660 Euro comes out to 739 USD. Seven. Hundred. Thirty. Nine. Dollars.
:wtf::shadedshu::fear::kookoo:
Stick to proper, Human Resources stacked data center professional business. That's where the money and lack of criticism at.
I just see steppy shit in every game running on this(4060Ti), I couldn't take that after spending Vega or 1080Ti levels of money, Five years or more on.
But they also dont want you to think extra VRAM is useless or that these GPU's are bad, so i guess nobody gets the paper launch GPU
And this is a stupid overpriced SKU. There are 16GB 4060Ti-s available in Germany at 528€ today. Which is at MSRP (528€ = $593 and without 19% VAT that makes $499).
Please stop harping about some stupid example.
ASUS does not seem to have an RTX4070 Strix OC available (at least not in stores in Europe). ASUS 4070Ti Strix OC however costs over 1000€...
~27 billion transistors doubled to ~58 billion transistors in 2 years.
I think there is another problem - that TSMC posts unjustified profit margins uplifts and extreme wafers costs demands.
No, they're not a bargain, but we have need for 16GB CUDA cards and as pathetic as these are, they're still the cheapest 16GB cards you can buy. I was ranting about how terrible they are compared to the A4000, but not everyone needs actual GPU performance, simply the ability to hold the entire dataset in VRAM on the GPU.
I'm treating them a bit like those shitty Geforce GT730 cards with 4GB of DDR3 having some non-gaming uses while Flagship cards from the same era like the 780Ti were limited to 3GB GDDR5. They'll run workloads that more expensive cards won't. They will not run them well, but any result at all is better than crashing out with an error.
I personally used a lot of used stuff for various businesses and so far so good, only one $50 ($200 BNIB) GPU went kaput (the merriest part is it died when it already became useless due to that business going outta juice).
These are business purchases and go on the asset register for VAT purposes.
I have bought used 3090s in the past, but it's more hassle than it's worth for me, and with 20% tax in the UK, being unable to claim back VAT on used purchases actually makes the used 3090's considerably more expensive still - £650 vs £400. 3090's are also risky given how many of them are ex-mining cards that need disassembly and replacement of thermal pads. I've purchased about 10 used, had to replace pads on 8 of them which is yet more time and money.
I buy used cards to mess about with (personally) all the time, but business purchases work differently, in that I have access to a handful of distributors and integrator inventory but have to pay on company account, invoiced and registered, e-POs completed and filed, and some old crap written off the asset register to get various boxes ticked for upgrade/maintenance rather than new inventory. Even buying new items from retailers with a company card is more hassle than it's worth sometimes!