Monday, September 4th 2023
AMD Ryzen 8000 "Strix Point" APU Leak Points to 16 RDNA 3.5 CUs
PerformanceDatabases has uncovered details relating to an alleged engineering sample of AMD's Ryzen 8000 "Strix Point" APU—likely insider sourced CPU-Z screengrabs from early last month revealed that the upcoming Zen 5-based laptop chip (in their words): "is built on a 4 nm Process and features the Big.Little CPU architecture with 4 Performance Cores and 8 Efficiency Cores. Both the P and E-Cores support hyper-threading. On the P-Core and E-Core, the L1 Data cache is 48 KB, while the L1 instruction cache is 32 KB. Each P Core boasts 1 MB of cache, and with E-Cores, it looks like there are 4 in a group, sharing 1 MB of L2 Cache. This setup is quite similar to Intel's design. Keep in mind, it's still in the engineering sample (ES) stage, so there's more to come. We'll keep you posted on any further updates!"
Another "AMD Strix - Internal GPU" example emerged late last week, this time in the form of a leaked HWInfo64 screen grab with some information completely covered up—the visible parts seems to point to this "Strix Point" APU featuring a core configuration as seen in the earlier leak, along with 1024 unified shaders. We can presume that the sampled Zen 5-based mobile APU possessing 16 RDNA 3.5 compute units (16 × 64 = 1024). Other details include a 45 W TDP rating, and the socket type being FP8 (as utilized by current Ryzen 7040U and 7040H(S) mobile SoCs). The 512 MB GDDR6 memory configuration is very likely an error—according to HWInfo64, the tested system was fitted with 32 GB of LPDDR5 memory. "Strix Point" looks to be the logical successor (in 2024) to AMD's current "Phoenix" lineup of mobile processors, as featured in gaming handhelds and laptops. PC hardware enthusiasts are expressing excitement about the upcoming APU series wielding impressive iGPU performance, with the potential to rival modern discrete mobile solutions.
Sources:
XDA Developers, VideoCardz, Wccftech, Performance Databases
Another "AMD Strix - Internal GPU" example emerged late last week, this time in the form of a leaked HWInfo64 screen grab with some information completely covered up—the visible parts seems to point to this "Strix Point" APU featuring a core configuration as seen in the earlier leak, along with 1024 unified shaders. We can presume that the sampled Zen 5-based mobile APU possessing 16 RDNA 3.5 compute units (16 × 64 = 1024). Other details include a 45 W TDP rating, and the socket type being FP8 (as utilized by current Ryzen 7040U and 7040H(S) mobile SoCs). The 512 MB GDDR6 memory configuration is very likely an error—according to HWInfo64, the tested system was fitted with 32 GB of LPDDR5 memory. "Strix Point" looks to be the logical successor (in 2024) to AMD's current "Phoenix" lineup of mobile processors, as featured in gaming handhelds and laptops. PC hardware enthusiasts are expressing excitement about the upcoming APU series wielding impressive iGPU performance, with the potential to rival modern discrete mobile solutions.
54 Comments on AMD Ryzen 8000 "Strix Point" APU Leak Points to 16 RDNA 3.5 CUs
Its quite far apart actually. Intel uses completely different core architectures which can lead to instructions set differences between P and E cores. AMDs solution is the same core design with just cut down cache.
apu laptops can game really decently as well, no longer needed giant heavy dedicated gaming laptop unless you just want to play AAA titles of recent years
i think the market is trending towards more APU's.
Just for the fun of it. Shops still sell G210s.
Nice development because in all fairness, better graphics have already gone way past the point of diminishing returns.
Deck and SteamOS seem to have a smoothing effect as well, for example I never noticed blur issues or screen tearing on Dishonored on Deck, but on Windows PC regardless if its my gtx 1070 laptop or my all amd setup, I will get issues. so Deck isn't traditional 60 fps to my eyes, SteamOS is doing something to it where it just looks right imo.
Despite laptops being much more popular than desktops, and I mean not only for gaming but in general, AMD's mobile APU's have never had any leaks before their CPU counterparts AFAIK.
The only big problem is that they have so horrible driver support on those. Basically no updates, and missing half the features a discrete card gets.
But.
Graphics cards? Disappointing generation from both at prices that disappoint even more.
iGPUs have everything in their favor, so APUs is where AMD will probably focus it's marketing, considering that for now it doesn't really have competition.We are talking about the SAME OEMs who where building single channel AMD based laptops without discrete GPUs, or where using the worst parts in contrast to the equivalent Intel models.
Microsoft insists on using Intel CPUs in it's Surface line.
I mean, who can blame AMD if OEMs avoid building slim laptops with the best AMD APUs at reasonable prices, fearing that sales of most expensive laptops with discrete GPUs that probably bring higher profits to them, will get hit? AMD can sell APUs, can't dictate where and how those APUs will be used.
Or are you calling AMD dumb as bricks just because they're not selling those APU's for a lower price? You know that they have loads of slower chips that they have to sell as well, right?
geizhals.eu/?cat=nb&xf=11293_00+03+-+(iGPU)~19538_17+-+Zen+4+(ab+2022)
Notice how big the Memory modules look against the GPU and fully appreciate the potential of the 6500XT. For me the next budget chip] form AMD will be an APU equipped with a 7500XT GPU.
This is a strategic choice, not impossibility. They can simply allow or disallow companies to release products with or without certain specs combined with their APUs. Intel created Ultrabook that way, for example. You set boundaries, you create product groups and force resellers to adhere.
AMD however is on a different form of logic, they think total freedom is the best way to get their product to better market share. It hasn't ever worked. But they keep at it, on some weird principle or something I don't know. Their GPU logic is the same wrt marketing. Its one WTF moment after another.
The only thing they have showing for that strategy is that they've always had revenue. Not profit, but revenue, certainly. Its also why after decades of pretty good products people still think of AMD as the lesser being of the 2 or 3 competitors. This is part of the reason why AMD is always competing on price even if they do have solid product. After all Zen isn't missing a featureset like GPUs do relative to Nvidia. It's missing its time to market, it dragged Vega along far too long, etc etc. All of this is timing and marketing strategy. And let's not even begin about the motherboard support fiasco that they keep choking on.