Thursday, November 9th 2023

Valve Updates the Steam Deck with OLED Display, Overhauled Internals

Valve has announced an updated version of the Steam Deck and the headline feature is the new 7.4-inch OLED display. That's a mere 0.4-inches bigger than the original Steam Deck LCD display and it retains the same 1280 x 800 resolution. However, everything else related to the display has been improved and the refresh rate is now 90 Hz rather than 60 Hz. The display is also a lot brighter, with an SDR rating of 600 nits and an HDR rating of 1000 nits. Valve also claims a 110 percent P3 colour gamut, a one million to one contrast ratio and a sub 0.1 ms response time. On top of that, Valve has added what the company calls "high performance touch" which is said to improve the responsiveness of the display.

It's not just the display that has been improved, as Valve has moved to a 6 nm AMD Zen 2 based SoC which seems to allow the GPU to run at 1.6 GHz at all times, as Valve no longer lists a frequency range for the GPU. The power envelope remains the same though, with a range of 4-15 Watts. Paired with the new SoC is faster LPDDR5 memory at 6400 MT/s, up from 5500 MT/s, which should provide a small boost in gaming performance. An improved cooling solution is also part of the package, which is also likely a reason for the more constant GPU clocks. Gone are the entry level storage SKUs and the OLED version of the Steam Deck only comes with 512 GB or 1 TB of internal storage. The WiFi and Bluetooth module has also been overhauled and now supports WiFi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3. The battery has also been boosted from a 40 Whr pack to a 50 Whr pack and Valve now claims three to 12 hours of battery life during gaming, as well as faster charging times. Finally the weight has dropped by 29 grams, which might not be much, but still impressive considering the larger battery pack. The downside you ask? That would be the price, as Valve is asking for US$549/€569 for the 512 GB version, with the 1 TB coming at US$649/€679 when it becomes available on the 16th of November.
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124 Comments on Valve Updates the Steam Deck with OLED Display, Overhauled Internals

#26
SCP-001
TheLostSwedeYou don't think I would've mentioned that if it was something that was listed?

fair enough
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#28
A&P211
bonehead123Hello Valve, in the real world, most people usually prefer to get wined & dined BEFORE gettin screwed :D
I'll take the "to go order", I gotz stuff to do.
Vya DomusI am sorry but 1280x800 on an OLED is laughable, I mean objectively, OLED screens have an unusual sub pixel structure that make the perceived resolution lower than what it "technically" is, when you get down to 720P territory you're really pushing it.

Would a 1080p display have been that much more expensive ?
Its a low power APU, 12800x800 is perfect for lower resolution device. I dont think a 4090 can fit into a hand held just yet.
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#29
Nordic
Imagine all these improvements with a Steam Deck 2 in a few years. Valve broke open this market and is making the linux software to support it.

I am tempted to upgrade my Steam Deck but it really isn't worthwhile. I play really lightweight games on my Deck in bed and my heavy games on my desktop. I would get more value from a desktop GPU upgrade. The limited edition model looks amazing!
TheinsanegamerNBattery life improvements are nice to see. That being said, I wish we'd get a more substantial update. A newer APU based on the zen 4c cores with LPDDR5X ram would be very nice.
They announced they are going to come out with a Steam Deck 2 in 2-3 years when their is a more substantial improvement in performance to be had within the same power envelope.
kapone32I am sure that they can sell these for less than $250 US and make lot's of profit. Everything uses much smaller quantities. I just want to be able to buy a handheld with the body and MB and make my own but that is a dream for now.
The base model at $399 was already sold at a loss. We don't know how much of a loss.
Vya DomusI am sorry but 1280x800 on an OLED is laughable, I mean objectively, OLED screens have an unusual sub pixel structure that make the perceived resolution lower than what it "technically" is, when you get down to 720P territory you're really pushing it.

Would a 1080p display have been that much more expensive ?
The hardware is designed to run very well at low power and doesn't run as well at 1080p. 800p is absolutely fine on an ~7 inch display at this price point.
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#30
Space Lynx
Astronaut
A&P211Its a low power APU, 12800x800 is perfect for lower resolution device. I dont think a 4090 can fit into a hand held just yet.
As someone who is nearing 100 hours in FFX HD Remaster on my Steam Deck, I can confirm the 800p resolution looks fantastic on this game, its still very sharp to my eyes.

100% buying this other Deck, I plan to use both and want both in my life long collection as well as the future Steam Deck 2. SteamOS is a game changer in my eyes. I am so happy they went with 800p 90hz, so many games can actually run that and still look great natively!!! This thing checks all my boxes.
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#31
NC37
Until they change the 2230 drive slot to something bigger and allows more flexible upgrade options, this is just a stopgap/sidegrade solution.
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#32
Space Lynx
Astronaut
TheLostSwedeYou don't think I would've mentioned that if it was something that was listed?

Do you know if these are hall effect joysticks? I am just curious, its not a big deal either way. My only other concern is the anti-glare screen on the LCD model imo dims the colors (I am glad I got the glossy version), I wonder if this is the same case here... maybe I should stick with $549 model for better colors, I think the matte coating will dim that OLED "pop" @TheLostSwede @Nordic what are your thoughts on this? As of right now I am leaning towards the $549 version.

Also, PCgamer has review up: gave it a 89/100

www.pcgamer.com/steam-deck-oled-review/
KlemcNext is ALLY OLED 8", 1080p 120hz ?!
clunky bloated OS, horrible battery life, games that won't run as well cause 1080p still on APU at end day... I'll take Steam Deck any day over that. 800p OLED 90hz is literally the perfect trio for this form factor and APU. i am playing FFX HD Remaster at 5 watts and incredible 4-5 hr battery life... it took 10 seconds to dial in the watt usage needed. how long does that take on Ally?
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#34
TheLostSwede
News Editor
theoutoHDR on linux though, that's what I find fascinating about the OLED Steamdeck
According to early reviews, it's a bit hit and miss.
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#35
Space Lynx
Astronaut
ImoutoExcept it's the same custom Aerith SoC in a different node?
I was specifically referring to the 90hz refresh... most people say 120 or 144 is necessary, and really the biggest gains are going from 60 to 90. diminishing returns after that, especially with OLED response times.
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#36
Imouto
Space LynxI was specifically referring to the 90hz refresh... most people say 120 or 144 is necessary, and really the biggest gains are going from 60 to 90. diminishing returns after that, especially with OLED response times.
Yeah, cuz it's the only thing in that post you got right.
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#37
THU31
Vya DomusI am sorry but 1280x800 on an OLED is laughable, I mean objectively, OLED screens have an unusual sub pixel structure that make the perceived resolution lower than what it "technically" is, when you get down to 720P territory you're really pushing it.

Would a 1080p display have been that much more expensive ?
Digital Foundry and Linus were extremely impressed by the screen. Linus even felt like the resolution seemed higher than it actually was.

My friend is a huge Steam Deck enjoyer and he'll be ordering this one right away, so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it with my own eyes.
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#38
Space Lynx
Astronaut
TheLostSwedeAccording to early reviews, it's a bit hit and miss.
As someone who has been using the preview update channel on the original Steam Deck, I can with confidence say I am not worried about this at all. I have full confidence it will improve, not that it matters that much to me personally, as OLED 90hz itself is the game changer here. Only thing I need to figure out now is do I want the matte screen or glossy, and colors always pop better on glossy, so that is the way I am leaning.
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#39
Knight47
Missed opportunity not upgrading the resolution to 4K or 8K Oled. Bigger number is better.
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#40
Klemc
Space Lynxclunky bloated OS, horrible battery life, games that won't run as well cause 1080p still on APU at end day... I'll take Steam Deck any day over that. 800p OLED 90hz is literally the perfect trio for this form factor and APU. i am playing FFX HD Remaster at 5 watts and incredible 4-5 hr battery life... it took 10 seconds to dial in the watt usage needed. how long does that take on Ally?
Anyway is Legion GO 8,8" an OLED (Lenovo) ?

But the price is so high, and i need only a portable OLED for 2D games, then i won't buy any.

8,8" is perfect (point & clicks games).
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#41
Guwapo77
TheLostSwedeYou can thank Apple for that.

Also note that there's a long list of other, minor improvements from new material choices to torx screws that screw into metal threads in the housing and overall better serviceability.
I think this retort is slightly misguided, "You can thank the consumer for this!" Apple, Dell, and the like does this, but we the consumer keep these big fellas in business. We don't have to buy from Apple, Dell, and friends...we could buy from the lesser guy like Gateway Computer...oh wait, they are no more. Anyways, you get the idea. ;)
Knight47Missed opportunity not upgrading the resolution to 4K or 8K Oled. Bigger number is better.
What in the hell do you plan to play on it Solitaire? That is about all you will play on an APU at 4K/8K resolutions.
Space LynxI was specifically referring to the 90hz refresh... most people say 120 or 144 is necessary, and really the biggest gains are going from 60 to 90. diminishing returns after that, especially with OLED response times.
Diminishing returns yes, but Tim from Hardware Unboxed will certainly disagree with you after testing a 540Hz Asus panel. I get it we are talking about a handheld. I think 90 is the sweet spot for smoothness too. Anything under 90 just doesn't "feel" right.
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#42
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
If you don't think this is one of the best things to happen in tech in the past 15 years then you are a child with very little knowledge. The HDR OLED on a LINUX DEVICE is such a huge win for the community.
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#43
natr0n
Seems like an amazing device to fool with. Seen you can put windows on it no prob.
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#44
Squared
Space LynxDo you know if these are hall effect joysticks? I am just curious, its not a big deal either way.
LTT said that Valve said that these are not hall effect joysticks.
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#45
NeuralNexus
Vya DomusI am sorry but 1280x800 on an OLED is laughable, I mean objectively, OLED screens have an unusual sub pixel structure that make the perceived resolution lower than what it "technically" is, when you get down to 720P territory you're really pushing it.

Would a 1080p display have been that much more expensive ?
I'm positive they stayed with the 720p resolution for performance reasons. Steam Decks perform so well across various game genres due to the resolution being fixed. It has nothing to do with a slight price increase for hardware.
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#46
Daven
Thank goodness it has an Intel, I mean Nvidia, oh that’s right…an AMD APU. That’s so different than all the other PC handhelds…wait a minute. All the other handhelds have AMD too. Wow who would have thought that AMD would be the go to tech of so many gaming oriented devices.
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#48
Makaveli
TheinsanegamerNBattery life improvements are nice to see. That being said, I wish we'd get a more substantial update. A newer APU based on the zen 4c cores with LPDDR5X ram would be very nice.
Don't think you can just change the soc without breaking compatibility with the OG deck. Would be nice if you could.
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#49
gunter
Are you sure it is LPDDR5 memory? A Valve engineer said in an interview that they change the memory was purely for energy efficiency reasons, so I believe it's a LPDDR5X memory
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#50
Squared
MakaveliDon't think you can just change the soc without breaking compatibility with the OG deck. Would be nice if you could.
I don't think it's a compatibility issue. Games and Steam OS ought to work fine on newer AMD hardware, and I think even the drivers would work pretty similarly. I think Valve is sticking with Zen 2 and RDNA 2 in order to force game developers to continue supporting the original Deck.
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