Phoenix 2 (2 Z4+4 Z4c + 4CU) should only be $150. But it probably won't be for sometime.

Hi,
Yeah beta is the keyword for no thanks lol

Would like to see where Zen 5 is with boot times after all these updates. Back at launch I saw absurd 30-60 second cold boots. Have they got cold boots to 10 seconds yet like Zen 3?

phintsWould like to see where Zen 5 is with boot times after all these updates. Back at launch I saw absurd 30-60 second cold boots. Have they got cold boots to 10 seconds yet like Zen 3?

Nope, at least not that I've noticed. I don't know if it's a bios issue or just part of the DDR5 spec that requires at least some of its suite of tests be run since power control is on the sticks and not the memory controller.

Time will tell

phintsWould like to see where Zen 5 is with boot times after all these updates. Back at launch I saw absurd 30-60 second cold boots. Have they got cold boots to 10 seconds yet like Zen 3?

I just upgraded from a 8700K to a 7800X3D for Christmas. My first AMD system since the FX days! Anyways I ended up getting a MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard.

The night before (Christmas Eve) I was going to upgrade my PC, I went to the support page and downloaded the latest BIOS, and drivers. The latest BIOS on the page at that time was not labeled as Beta. However I came to find out that MSI pulled it the next day. Because they were getting so many reports of so many dif bugs on Reddit, their forums etc. But MSI doesn't see any benefit to have put a little banner or something saying "BIOS version x was pulled due to...". If they had I would never have flashed that BIOS (I checked the page one last time the next day).

So I ended up with EXPO not working (turning it on would just give a black screen (no signal) and a yellow light for the RAM debug LED. Also the menu to setup a RAID array was broken in that BIOS, the part where you pick what RAID type you want simply did nothing so you couldn't progress.

And the POST times good lord. ~44 seconds according to task manager!

Thankfully I quickly found out about MSI pulling the BIOS I flashed, and how many people were having issues with it. So I downgraded to 7E12v152(Beta version) which is AGESA ComboPI 1.0.8.0 (the pulled BIOS was version 7E12V17 using AGESA ComboPI 1.1.0.1).

So I downgraded the BIOS, changed some minor settings back to how I like (disable full screen logo, disable integrated GPU etc). Saved changes rebooted. Then rebooted again into BIOS, turned on EXPO, and rebooted. This time the screen went black but after a few seconds I got a signal with just a white - in the top left and the RAM debug LED was yellow. But it only took ~10 seconds and the debug led went off and it continued to boot. Got into Windows to see my memory running at the EXPO speed (DDR5 6000).

Then following advice I got over on the MSI subreddit I turned on two options. "Memory Context Restore" and "Power Down Enable" (set that to enabled). My POST time went from ~44 seconds to 21.8 seconds according to task manager.

d0x360Nope, at least not that I've noticed. I don't know if it's a bios issue or just part of the DDR5 spec that requires at least some of its suite of tests be run since power control is on the sticks and not the memory controller.

Time will tell

My boot time on an x670e extreme and 7950x3d is like 10 sec.

Set ddr5 in the bios so it doesn't go through the training cycle every boot (memory context restore) and it will knock you boot times down by 50-70%