Tuesday, January 2nd 2024
AMD Ryzen 5 8600G to Feature Radeon 760M Graphics with 8 CU, 5.00 GHz Maximum CPU Boost
AMD's upcoming Ryzen 5 8600G Socket AM5 desktop APU will feature the truncated Radeon 760M integrated graphics, and not the previously believed Radeon 780M, or the full iGPU configuration present on the silicon. At this point, there are still conflicting reports on which exact silicon the Ryzen 8000G desktop APUs are even based on, with some of the older reports and Geekbench detecting 8600G engineering samples to be based on "Phoenix," and some of the newer reports suggesting that it's based on "Hawk Point." Both "Phoenix" and "Hawk Point" are nearly identical, except for the latter to feature a faster NPU.
The Ryzen 5 8600G is configured with a 6-core/12-thread CPU based on the "Zen 4" microarchitecture, with 1 MB of L2 cache per core, and 16 MB of shared L3 cache. The CPU base frequency is set to a healthy 4.35 GHz, and maximum CPU boost frequency of 5.00 GHz. These CPU clocks are very similar to those of the mobile Ryzen 5 7640H (which has a base frequency of 4.30 GHz, but the same 5.00 GHz boost), but in case of the 8600G, the 65 W TDP and possible 90 W PPT should help with boost frequency residency. The Radeon 760M gets 8 out of 12 RDNA3 compute units physically present on the silicon, giving it 512 stream processors. Geekbench detects an engine clock (GPU clock) of 2.80 GHz, compared to the 2.60 GHz of the Radeon 760M on the Ryzen 5 7640H. The 8600G ES was running on an MSI MEG X670E Ace motherboard, with 32 GB of dual-channel DDR5-6000 memory.
Sources:
Geekbench Database 1, Geekbench Database 2, VideoCardz
The Ryzen 5 8600G is configured with a 6-core/12-thread CPU based on the "Zen 4" microarchitecture, with 1 MB of L2 cache per core, and 16 MB of shared L3 cache. The CPU base frequency is set to a healthy 4.35 GHz, and maximum CPU boost frequency of 5.00 GHz. These CPU clocks are very similar to those of the mobile Ryzen 5 7640H (which has a base frequency of 4.30 GHz, but the same 5.00 GHz boost), but in case of the 8600G, the 65 W TDP and possible 90 W PPT should help with boost frequency residency. The Radeon 760M gets 8 out of 12 RDNA3 compute units physically present on the silicon, giving it 512 stream processors. Geekbench detects an engine clock (GPU clock) of 2.80 GHz, compared to the 2.60 GHz of the Radeon 760M on the Ryzen 5 7640H. The 8600G ES was running on an MSI MEG X670E Ace motherboard, with 32 GB of dual-channel DDR5-6000 memory.
39 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 8600G to Feature Radeon 760M Graphics with 8 CU, 5.00 GHz Maximum CPU Boost
Besides, what are we exactly missing out on, slower NPU that's possibly disabled anyway? It's still Zen 4.
Edit:TYPO
They're not called APU's just because they have 2 CU's.What are you even talking about? How/why would they short them? To get the pure smell of burnt electronics?
I suspect the destop parts are just laptop rejects, that's why its GPU has disabled parts and they need to run them at high power levels.
Hopefully they learned their lesson on Vega and not updating APU tech.
Also the cores are Zen 4/4c in the 8G series.......so what am I getting wrong about old stuff posted above??
Ryzen 7 - 12 CUs
Ryzen 5 - 8 CUs
Ryzen 3 - 4 CUs
Why is the article trying to make it sound as if AMD shorted us somehow?
At the same performance? Doubt.
At peak performance? Well, at least you get double or even triple the FPS.Yeah, re-checked the market and things got more expensive. Yet it still more than 2x gaming performance so why not.
That's why I only see it viable in very tiny PCs where you can't fit any decent dGPU whatsoever. Very niche product.
These are my idle values. i5-12400F + RX 6700 XT, the only screen is 4K60. I doubt it very hard you can notice any difference between that and a single APU:
This is Cyberpunk 2077, 1080p High with no upscaling, limited to 30 FPS (probably still better than these APUs can do); the wattage is <100 W on my GPU. RX 6600 is a bit more efficient in this regard.
Same game, 1080p Ultra, no upscaling, limited to RX 6600 XT performance level.
100 W as a 1080p60 price doesn't seem too huge.
I think that @W1zzard going to be pretty busy soon. The holidays are over...
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900x/2.html
Anyway, I wonder what the point is with buying this instead of a system with a soldered APU, especially when mini-ITX boards are so expensive.
Building a bigger system with an ATX board seems unlikely as well.