Monday, June 17th 2024
AMD Ryzen AI 9 300 Posts a 20% Performance Upgrade with Both Graphics and CPU Over Previous Gen
The top-spec AMD Ryzen AI 9 300 series "Strix Point" processor, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, is expected to post a 20% performance improvement over both the CPU and integrated graphics fronts, over its predecessor, the Ryzen 9 8945HS "Hawk Point," according to leak by Golden Pig Upgrade. On the CPU front, the HX 370 packs a 12-core/24-thread CPU based on a combination of four "Zen 5" and eight "Zen 5c" cores. The single-thread performance gains on the basis of the "Zen 5" microarchitecture's generational IPC increase, besides higher clock speeds; while the multithreaded performance increases on account on more cores. This performance increase isn't linearly scaling with the 50% increase in core-count.
On "Hawk Point," all eight cores are "Zen 4," capable of boosting to high frequencies, with two of them being marked as CPPC preferred cores, capable of boosting the highest. On "Strix Point," however, only four cores are based on the "Zen 5" architecture and capable of boosting to high frequency bands; while the other eight are "Zen 5c," which don't boost as high. While the IPC of "Zen 5c" is identical to "Zen 5," the fact that it doesn't boost as high, means that the generational multithreaded performance gain from the core-count increase is expected to be closer to 20%, with Golden Pig Upgrade talking about a Cinebench R23 nT score of over 20000 points, with "Hawk Point" scoring around 16000 points.
Things get interesting with graphics. The new RDNA 3.5 iGPU on "Strix Point" packs 16 compute units (CU), compared to 12 CU on the "Hawk Point." These 16 CU work out to 1,024 stream processors, a 33% increase over the 768 stream processors of "Hawk Point," and yet there are many other factors that decide graphics performance besides CU count, and so Golden Pig Upgrade expects a 20% graphics performance improvement, which should make the new iGPU beat the Intel Arc Xe-LPG graphics of Core Ultra "Meteor Lake" processors by at least 20%. AMD, in its product announcement slide, claimed a 36% graphics performance lead over the Arc Graphics iGPU of the Core Ultra 9 185H processor.
As for the NPU, AMD has already claimed an AI inferencing performance of 50 TOPS, which goes a fair bit above the 40 TOPS required to meet Microsoft's Copilot+ AI PC program. This figure of NPU performance is needed for Windows to run local sessions of Copilot, minimizing back-and-forth from the Cloud, and improving privacy.
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On "Hawk Point," all eight cores are "Zen 4," capable of boosting to high frequencies, with two of them being marked as CPPC preferred cores, capable of boosting the highest. On "Strix Point," however, only four cores are based on the "Zen 5" architecture and capable of boosting to high frequency bands; while the other eight are "Zen 5c," which don't boost as high. While the IPC of "Zen 5c" is identical to "Zen 5," the fact that it doesn't boost as high, means that the generational multithreaded performance gain from the core-count increase is expected to be closer to 20%, with Golden Pig Upgrade talking about a Cinebench R23 nT score of over 20000 points, with "Hawk Point" scoring around 16000 points.
As for the NPU, AMD has already claimed an AI inferencing performance of 50 TOPS, which goes a fair bit above the 40 TOPS required to meet Microsoft's Copilot+ AI PC program. This figure of NPU performance is needed for Windows to run local sessions of Copilot, minimizing back-and-forth from the Cloud, and improving privacy.
42 Comments on AMD Ryzen AI 9 300 Posts a 20% Performance Upgrade with Both Graphics and CPU Over Previous Gen
If you want the top model, look for the number 370, or look into spec that reads 12 cores.
So, you have several hints: Ryzen 9, Strix, 370 or 12 cores.
What else do you need to be happy?
Right now it looks like revenge, tho.
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Ever since we've gone multicore, any number on a box became useless. You really need to understand how the CPU is built in order to determine if it fits your needs.
Do I need more cores? Do I need faster cores? Do I need more cache? Do I need more memory channels? No naming scheme will help you to answer that.
It's the first APU with 12 cores, so it's quite a step up from 4000/5000/6000/7040(8000) which has 8. Graphics is now 16 CU instead of 12.
There are only two models, 365 and 370, with 10 or 12 cores, 4 regular Zen5 cores and the rest Zen5C cores.
I mean, I'll take one that's over 9000 directly! But this?Next gen: Hank.
Oh yeah I want this. If you think of it, Nvidia's already kinda doing it. Ampere, Ada...