Tuesday, July 9th 2024

CPU-Z v2.10 Changelog Confirms Core-Config of Ryzen AI 300-series Processors

CPUID this week released the latest version of CPU-Z, and its change-log confirms the core-configurations of upcoming AMD Ryzen AI 300-series "Strix Point" processor SKUs. On paper, "Strix Point" packs a 12-core CPU based on the latest "Zen 5" microarchitecture, but there's more to this number. We've known since June 2024 that the chip has a heterogeneous multicore configuration of four full-sized "Zen 5" cores, and eight compacted "Zen 5c" cores. Only the "Zen 5" cores can reach the maximum boost frequencies rated for the chip, while the "Zen 5c" cores go a few notches above the base frequency, although it's expected that the gap in boost frequencies between the two core types is expected to slightly narrow compared to that between the "Zen 4" and "Zen 4c" cores in chips such as the "Phoenix 2."

The series is led by the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 375, an enthusiast segment chip that maxes out all 12 cores on the chip—that's 4x "Zen 5" and 8x "Zen 5c." This model is closely followed by the Ryzen AI 9 365, which AMD marked in its presentations as being simply a 10-core/20-thread chip. We're now learning that it has 4x "Zen 5" and 6x "Zen 5c," meaning that AMD hasn't touched the counts of its faster "Zen 5" cores. It's important to note here that "Zen 5c" is not an E-core. It supports SMT, and at base frequency, it has an identical IPC to "Zen 5." It also supports the entire ISA that "Zen 5" does.
Source: HXL (Twitter)
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13 Comments on CPU-Z v2.10 Changelog Confirms Core-Config of Ryzen AI 300-series Processors

#1
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It's important to note here that "Zen 5c" is not an E-core. It supports SMT, and at base frequency, it has an identical IPC to "Zen 5."
It wouldn’t just be at base frequency, would it? The IPC is the same at all frequencies, not just base speed.
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#3
T1beriu
FouquinHuh and see here I was foolishly thinking that AMD's official website for their products was where the specs were confirmed, not CPU-Z's update log.
Big thumbs up.
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Dr. Dro
Strix Point is possibly the single most overhyped AMD product in recent memory. I'm wondering if the performance is worthy.
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Gigaherz
Dr. DroStrix Point is possibly the single most overhyped AMD product in recent memory. I'm wondering if the performance is worthy.
It wont, because AI shit will give you bug-all perfomance increases in anything but super niche appplications that only 3 people in world reaslly use.
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#6
R0H1T
Dr. DroStrix Point is possibly the single most overhyped AMD product in recent memory. I'm wondering if the performance is worthy.
That would be Halo actually :pimp:
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Deeveo
2.10 download from cpuid (atleast zip version) got flagged for virus by MS Defender. Guru3d download was the old version.

Seems it was false positive.
Deeveo2.10 download from cpuid (atleast zip version) got flagged for virus by MS Defender. Guru3d download was the old version.

Seems it was false positive.
Was false positive, just update your definitions if you get the popup.
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#8
ARF
Works better than the older versions.
Now loads the CPU to only 0.328-0.368 V, while the older versions were jumping up and down between 0.2 and 1.2 V.

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#9
AnarchoPrimitiv
Dr. DroStrix Point is possibly the single most overhyped AMD product in recent memory. I'm wondering if the performance is worthy.
I feel it wasn't hyped any more than any other product by any other company
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ARF
AnarchoPrimitivI feel it wasn't hyped any more than any other product by any other company
For sure, the Radeon brand is not hyped so much. The last time it was hyped was during Raja Koduri, and the famous Vega is just around the corner meme. :fear:

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#11
Lycanwolfen
AMD off to a good start with the A.I. gimic. AMD AI 9 same processor but now with A.I.
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#12
Minus Infinity
Dr. DroStrix Point is possibly the single most overhyped AMD product in recent memory. I'm wondering if the performance is worthy.
Yeah, could well be. I'm actually more interested in Lunar Lake frankly for a new light laptop to replace an old 2016 clunker. I don't massive power, just great battery life and decent performance. Not a snowball's chance in hell I'm getting an ARM laptop with the piss poor state of affairs with software. Maybe in 2-3 years.

So far none of the leaked benchmarks for Strix seem impressive at all and Zen 5c cores are weaker than Zen 4 cores except maybe at very low power.
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#13
ADB1979
LycanwolfenAMD off to a good start with the A.I. gimic. AMD AI 9 same processor but now with A.I.
This is their third "AI" consumer product, and these chips use brand new CPU cores, so cannot be the same processor "but with AI".! At this point I am wondering whether you accidentally responded to the wrong post as it's the only plausible explanation because everything that you stated is wrong.
Minus InfinityYeah, could well be. I'm actually more interested in Lunar Lake frankly for a new light laptop to replace an old 2016 clunker. I don't massive power, just great battery life and decent performance. Not a snowball's chance in hell I'm getting an ARM laptop with the piss poor state of affairs with software. Maybe in 2-3 years.

So far none of the leaked benchmarks for Strix seem impressive at all and Zen 5c cores are weaker than Zen 4 cores except maybe at very low power.
If the "leaked" benchmarks for Strix don't impress you, then Lunar Lake is going to be a real disappointment considering that you seem to be under the impression that the 8 non hyper-threaded E-cores in Lunar Lake are going to outperform the 8 hyper-threaded, AVX-512 capable Zen 5c cores.

Also, Strix Point is looking pretty good in the 25W range and below, the reviews will be out soon enough and people will be testing it at lower wattage ranges, and also bear in mind that just because a product officially has a low wattage range does not mean that it's actually low power in real world usage and for a given performance. People like ("The Phawx" I think he goes by) will be testing this at various power settings, different limited speeds / RAM speed to show the sweetspot for performance at a given power level, or as is often the case, perhaps a little higher or lower is beneficial, either way, the NDA's are released on the 31st, so less than 10-days to wait and from what he has said, Strix is looking like it "could" be a graphics powerhouse at the bottom of the wattage range, and no-doubt you can tweak the chip for CPU performance above and beyond a simple BIOS max wattage setting if it's CPU performance not GPU performance you need most.
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