Monday, July 29th 2024
AMD Zen 5 Recall Caused by a Typo?
AMD Ryzen 9000 series "Granite Ridge" desktop processors were supposed to start selling on July 31, 2024, but the launch has since been delayed. Since then, social media has been abuzz with theory crafting behind what could be the cause of the delay. AMD's announcement of the delay mentions: "During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations," causing some to speculate if there are design flaws such as the ones affecting Intel's 13th Gen and 14th Gen Core desktop processors. A picture doing rounds on social media has a more goofy explanation: there is a glaring typo on the product label printed on the integrated heatspreader (IHS) of the processors.
Apparently, some of the first batches of Ryzen 9000 processors see the brand extensions mislabeled. Ryzen 7 9700X is printed as "Ryzen 9 9700X." This error in the brand extension may have been easily "patched" if it was on the retail packaging (the box), where hardware manufacturers tend to fix typos by simply pasting stickers on them. You can't do this with the IHS, which is a key component of the processor's cooling mechanism. Also, since times immemorial, chip labels (information printed on the chip) have served as crucial last resorts for accuracy of information such as the chip's exact model number, steppings or revisions (if any), and production serial numbers, besides the chip's national origin, which determines the applicable import tariffs. A typo here could prove problematic. We're not entirely sure how AMD is fixing these errors with mere 1-2 week delays. It's likely that they're recalling the affected batch and simply replacing inventory in the channel with "good" batches. The recalled chips will simply have their IHS reprinted.
Source:
Ian Cutress (Twitter)
Apparently, some of the first batches of Ryzen 9000 processors see the brand extensions mislabeled. Ryzen 7 9700X is printed as "Ryzen 9 9700X." This error in the brand extension may have been easily "patched" if it was on the retail packaging (the box), where hardware manufacturers tend to fix typos by simply pasting stickers on them. You can't do this with the IHS, which is a key component of the processor's cooling mechanism. Also, since times immemorial, chip labels (information printed on the chip) have served as crucial last resorts for accuracy of information such as the chip's exact model number, steppings or revisions (if any), and production serial numbers, besides the chip's national origin, which determines the applicable import tariffs. A typo here could prove problematic. We're not entirely sure how AMD is fixing these errors with mere 1-2 week delays. It's likely that they're recalling the affected batch and simply replacing inventory in the channel with "good" batches. The recalled chips will simply have their IHS reprinted.
87 Comments on AMD Zen 5 Recall Caused by a Typo?
If there were a hardware defect AMD wouldn't be able to spin up a corrected chip to manufacturing, package and ship it in that short amount of time.
Okay, the poor image quality may distort letter-spacing. But that 7 in 9700X looks very odd - spaces between 9, 7, 0 are just strange, like someone cut something from there and stamped another thing there.
Compare it yourself, for example:
I've always thought that correcting a hardware issue (right before start of selling) in a chip will take at least 2 months.
Such marking issue would not be correctable within 1 week of delay. Not if it needs to travel all the way back to Taiwan.
Imagine:
You are recalling all the CPUs already (being) distributed to all OEMs and retailers. Some are probably still on a ship or a plane.
How long does it take to get it from Europe or North America back to Taiwan? Maybe in 5-7 days by ship and plane combined?
Then think of 1-2 days for doing corrections and handling logistics internally, add another 5-7 days of shipping back.
Doing a recall by a plane only is way too expensive. Sure it is quick but that'd cost a significant fraction of a chip manufacturing cost.
This is from news about a week ago, there's supposed to be a pic of R9 9900X:
videocardz.com/newz/italian-zen-5-review-ryzen-9-9900x-falls-short-against-ryzen-7-7800x3d-in-gaming
Take it with a grain of salt as well.
And what the hell happenned to that heatspreader in the lower bottom part? Someone tried to step on it?
As for the copyright, it seems okay to have (c) 2023 there.
Ryzen 9 7900X has some legit photos on the internet and there's (c) 2021 on them, despite 7900X being released on Sep 27th, 2022.
www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-9-7900x.c2847
Anyway, if this typo proves to be legit, then ... AMD is not far behind the Intel lol.
Hence the ~1 month delay (I don't believe that the 31st was the intended release day), It's just a recall and they have stock to follow through without having to replace every CPU made early.
My guess is wonky bios on some 600 series boards.
Probably to release most high value Zen5 products at the same time, with the laptop AI stuff, to get a bigger coverage.
For the motherboards the 800 chipset lineup is a straight renaming with the same promontory chips so it doesn't really matter to AMD. They already had a working BIOS so they just needed to release it. But their board partners feel probably a bit cross because they weren't given time to make the boards.
If it was something more serious, like hardware related or material related (imagine a bad batch of TIM under the IHS), it would be worse and more time consuming to fix.
But this is only speculations on my side :p
The elegant, witty, harmless and half-correct solution would be to add the Ryzen 9 9700X to the parts list on the website and everywhere else.