Would be nice if it worked on all chipsets.

DanTheBanjomanWould be nice if it worked on all chipsets.

Amen! And SLI too.:toast:

DanTheBanjomanWould be nice if it worked on all chipsets.

well nvidiots need to be more sharing , and admit intel makes better chipsets than the nforce series.

Although we all know it comes down to money, it makes everyone look good :) ATI started out wanting an all-game, all-platform solution and it looks like AMD is keeping with that idea.

P45 with CrossFireX? Sounds like it's going to shame the X48 (which has been delayed, and will release close to the P45). Have as many (or more) PCIe lanes as the X48 and support 1600FSB. What does the X48 have left? XMP? Meh...

This is a smart monetary move. Also, I wouldnt say Intels chipsets are better than Nvidias. Nvidia makes rock solid chipsets for enthusiasts and average consumers. They really hit the nail on the head there, as has ATI.

Also, Jimmy, it should read License, not licence ;)

Difference between NVidia and AMD?

NV has integrity. They didn't budge in giving away SLI to Intel and their interests so far as chipset sales go are secured.

AMD has everything to lose: By licensing Crossfire X they gave away Intel the sole USP that would've made people opt for a AMD processor and AMD chipset, four-card Crossfire.

Desperation....what can we say? Intel and NV are a win win. Whether or not AMD processors are used, people would continue to buy Intel processors and NV hardware.

Poor stupid AMD.

DanTheBanjomanWould be nice if it worked on all chipsets.

newtekie1Amen! And SLI too.:toast:

Cut-throat competition, my friends. Things are going to get dirtier in the industry. ^That's very utopian.

WarEagleAUThis is a smart monetary move. Also, I wouldnt say Intels chipsets are better than Nvidias. Nvidia makes rock solid chipsets for enthusiasts and average consumers. They really hit the nail on the head there, as has ATI.

Also, Jimmy, it should read License, not licence ;)

I'll take your word for it. I don't know the difference between a licence and a license anyway.

btarunrAMD has everything to lose: By licensing Crossfire X they gave away Intel the sole USP that would've made people opt for a AMD processor and AMD chipset, four-card Crossfire.

That's quite a bold comment IMO. A simple counter argument is that they've also given Intel owners a good reason to buy ATI over NVIDIA.

Jimmy 2004That's quite a bold comment IMO. A simple counter argument is that they've also given Intel owners a good reason to buy ATI over NVIDIA.

Yeah but if 4 ATI cards perform better than 3 NV cards and if the ability to use 4 cards layed with having to buy a AMD CPU+chipset, that would've pushed people to choose a AMD processor + chipset just to be able to have access to the best video-solution. Who knows, tomorrow ATI could just make that "magical GPU".

remember how SLI first came to AMD in the form of nForce 4 SLI ? and ppl swarmed to AMD camp just to be able to use it? later NV made a SLI (intel edition chipset)

btarunrYeah but if 4 ATI cards performed better than 3 NV cards and the ability to use 4 cards woud've lied with buying a AMD CPU+chipset, that would've pushed people to choose a AMD processor + chipset just to be able to have access to the best video-solution. Who knows, tomorrow ATI could just make that "magical GPU".

remember how SLI first came to AMD in the form of nForce 4 SLI ? and ppl swarmed to AMD camp just to be able to use it? later NV made a SLI (intel edition chipset)

:wtf: I had to read that about 5 times to understand what you meant. Try doing a quick proof-read before you send. Also, Firefox has a built in spell check.

As far as stability of nvidia chipsets vs. Intel... Intel is the winner. With nvidia you're pretty much gambling, but with Intel, when they say something works, you know it works. That's not to say nvidia doesn't make good chipsets tho. They really just need to open SLI up to everyone already!

FatForester:wtf: I had to read that about 5 times to understand what you meant. Try doing a quick proof-read before you send. Also, Firefox has a built in spell check.

As far as stability of nvidia chipsets vs. Intel... Intel is the winner. With nvidia you're pretty much gambling, but with Intel, when they say something works, you know it works. That's not to say nvidia doesn't make good chipsets tho. They really just need to open SLI up to everyone already!

Puhleez...what's so complex about that, that you couldn't understand? Did you read the whole convo? Enlist the mis-spelt words please. Here let me highlight yours as underlined by my Firefox. The word "chipset" is recognised as wrong spelling, also the word Firefox. Type Firefox and see for yourself.

I use the British English and realize is spelled as realise, color as colour.


I never got into the QC of Intel and NV chipsets so can't comment on the quality and that's also off-topic. I at least stuck to ATI Crossfire and went on with presenting my contention.

whatever i just go spider platform

Integrity......

p45 + 2 HD3870x2

Nearly all people who are using SLI or crossfire are high-end enthusiasts. So why would an enthusiast give up their Q6700 and switch to AMD just to have crossfire; when they can get SLI instead and keep their über processor? If AMD didn't license crossfire to Intel, the only multi-gpu option for enthusiasts would be SLI. Sales for high-end ATI cards would tank. This will only change when AMD has the CPU performance crown again, which won't happen anytime soon... It may never happen.

In the past, I've always been a guy who like AMD processors, ATI video cards, and Nvidia chipsets. But, I decided to take a gamble on AMD chipsets this time around, and man, this 790FX is absolutely incredible!!

So, you know, AMD didn't buy ATI just for the video cards, they also bought them for the chipsets they made (because AMD chipsets have always sucked). Now, the 790FX chipset is very (and I mean very) nice. Although having Crossfire X technology on high end intel chips I feel is a blow to Nvidia much more than a blow to AMD.

MrWNearly all people who are using SLI or crossfire are high-end enthusiasts. So why would an enthusiast give up their Q6700 and switch to AMD just to have crossfire; when they can get SLI instead and keep their über processor? If AMD didn't license crossfire to Intel, the only multi-gpu option for enthusiasts would be SLI. Sales for high-end ATI cards would tank. This will only change when AMD has the CPU performance crown again, which won't happen anytime soon... It may never happen.

+1

AMD's gotta make some money. At least the ATI acquisition is paying off. Who really knows if AMD processors would have tanked if the hadn't bought ATI? I'm sure the guys in the ATI dept. didn't want to license out X-Fire, but unfortunately, they probably don't have as much say in it as they thought. You never know, maybe Intel will start making video cards that work in X-Fire, then their cards would work on AMD boards as well. AMD could bust out some fancy new shiny processor and become the #1 pick again, with Intel video working on their homemade boards.

I like the move, and nVidia should jump on it as well. Even more hardware compatibility to give M$ a headache over the next iteration of Windows. Compatibility ftw!

If Intel board support Crossfire as standard the likely hood of people buying Crossfire enabled cards is increased, this is a good move by AMD which could lead to increased AMD vga card sales and a good Move by intel so now people wont have to choose between and intel chipset and a dual/tripple/quad card setup, the only loser in this deal is Nvidia who has been marginalised by this deal.

let'S not forget that intel is the #1 graphic producer and have stated that they intend to get into the card market big time. If AMD/ATI wants to keep selling vid cards that can compete they need to also fully run on the intel chipset family or AMD will tank ! With Nv not running SLI on intel chipsets it's their[AMD's] way of saying "we will work with you intel FU NV"

Intel to get crossfireX on P45 chipsets

...meanwhile amd just get their p45's:laugh:

btarunrYeah but if 4 ATI cards perform better than 3 NV cards and if the ability to use 4 cards :rested: with having to buy a AMD CPU+chipset, that would've pushed people to choose a AMD processor + chipset just to be able to have access to the best video-solution. Who knows, tomorrow ATI could just make that "magical GPU".

remember how SLI first came to AMD in the form of nForce 4 SLI ? and ppl swarmed to AMD camp just to be able to use it? later NV made a SLI (intel edition chipset)

lied is only proper to use in the honesty/dishonesty fashion

layed is the word you were looking for. but rested really fits better. thats why it didnt make any sense to anyone else.

graphic platform tied to a processor is backward ... blessed respects to ATi.

I get the feeling this is a 50-50 shot on AMD's part. They're getting a little desperate, but at least they're trying to find something they can pull off. We all know how tightwaded nVidia has been with their SLI license and capability, whereas ATi in the past were more than willing to offer up xFire for Intel chipsets.

perhaps with ATI/AMD pushing further into the chipset market, they might end up with an under-the-radar winner here. ATI's chipsets were pushing what onboard video was capable of, and are incredibly stable, too. Perhaps they're looking at it from the point where if they've got a decent part of the chipset market (or at least involved with it), they might be able to influence newer chipset architectures enough that it could boost the performance of their GPU's - better BUS handling and interface would defi help out how well their cards run overall.


Hmmm . . . the plot thickens . . .

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Nearly all people who are using SLI or crossfire are high-end enthusiasts. So why would an enthusiast give up their Q6700 and switch to AMD just to have crossfire; when they can get SLI instead and keep their über processor? If AMD didn't license crossfire to Intel, the only multi-gpu option for enthusiasts would be SLI. Sales for high-end ATI cards would tank. This will only change when AMD has the CPU performance crown again, which won't happen anytime soon... It may never happen.

And This

Silverel+1

AMD's gotta make some money. At least the ATI acquisition is paying off. Who really knows if AMD processors would have tanked if the hadn't bought ATI? I'm sure the guys in the ATI dept. didn't want to license out X-Fire, but unfortunately, they probably don't have as much say in it as they thought. You never know, maybe Intel will start making video cards that work in X-Fire, then their cards would work on AMD boards as well. AMD could bust out some fancy new shiny processor and become the #1 pick again, with Intel video working on their homemade boards.

I like the move, and nVidia should jump on it as well. Even more hardware compatibility to give M$ a headache over the next iteration of Windows. Compatibility ftw!

are some interesting points. and whats up with all the flaming? I thought that techpowerup transcends such immature behavior, sheech

honestly guys we should all applaud AMD for licensing xfire to intel, because as far as I'm concerned I'll just end up with a more flexible set of options as a consumer. this is why I'm a bit nervous about Spider. It's a closed platform where you're stuck with being able to buy from only amd... for EVER!!! thats like worse than MACS