they'll just release a combo drive next, that does HD and BD.

Musselsthey'll just release a combo drive next, that does HD and BD.

That or just a BD drive to go along with the HD drive. We will just have to wait and see what Microsoft will do.

"We will wait until we hear from Toshiba before announcing any specific plans around the Xbox 360 HD DVD player. "

Foxnews.com (www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331150,00.html) just posted that Toshiba has called it quits for HD DVD....seems everyone is jumping off the sinking ship and trying to minimize their losses.

Why should Microsoft care whether HD-DVDs sells well it has little impact on their console sales or their game sales. I've yet to see an X-box gamer say "actually I'm not going to buy Gears of War because its on HD-DVD and Blue Ray is winning" because the games sales should be treated independent to movie sales and shouldn't influence whether a game is purchased. You don't hear Nintendo worrying that Toshiba and other big companies are uninterested in their mini disc so why should Microsoft care if Toshiba is uninterested in HD-DVDs. This is all propaganda to fuel a format war which Microsoft care little about because their games will sell regardless due to them being in the gaming business not movie business.

DarrenWhy should Microsoft care whether HD-DVDs sells well it has little impact on their console sales or their game sales. I've yet to see an X-box gamer say "actually I'm not going to buy Gears of War because its on HD-DVD and Blue Ray is winning" because the games sales should be treated independent to movie sales and shouldn't influence whether a game is purchased. You don't hear Nintendo worrying that Toshiba and other big companies are uninterested in their mini disc so why should Microsoft care if Toshiba is uninterested in HD-DVDs. This is all propaganda to fuel a format war which Microsoft care little about because their games will sell regardless due to them being in the gaming business not movie business.

for media purposes only. Many people are using the PS3/360 for media centers, and if one has a 'lost' format, that one will no longer suit that task.

DarrenWhy should Microsoft care whether HD-DVDs sells well it has little impact on their console sales or their game sales. I've yet to see an X-box gamer say "actually I'm not going to buy Gears of War because its on HD-DVD and Blue Ray is winning" because the games sales should be treated independent to movie sales and shouldn't influence whether a game is purchased. You don't hear Nintendo worrying that Toshiba and other big companies are uninterested in their mini disc so why should Microsoft care if Toshiba is uninterested in HD-DVDs. This is all propaganda to fuel a format war which Microsoft care little about because their games will sell regardless due to them being in the gaming business not movie business.

Both Darren and Microsoft are correct. Whether it's HD-DVD or BluRay as the winner doesn't matter. The industry has begun moving away from physical media and is now in the process of digital distribution. Netflix is rumored to be offering it's services to both Microsoft and Sony.

The thing that hurts Microsoft most is not whether BluRay wins but the unreliability of it's Xbox360 console.

Do you know why its called the Xbox 360?
Cause thats the checklist of how many things can break everytime you turn it on... :P

orly? i thought that was the temperature it ran at.. :P
M$ Xplodey-box Cº360 :laugh:

Shut it the xbox 360 has a wide selection of games that run at good speeds and look great.
So what get pc or a dvd player to play your media simple.
Xbox 360 isnt a bad console and certainly the ps3 isnt "superior" both have pluses and minuses and for one i prefer the xbox 360 mines hasnt broken yet and i hardly notice the heat yes it is noisy but sometimes if im on the pc or the volume of the game seems to cover up the small noise.

Microsoft noticed that the 360 had a problem and corrected it and if yours has a problem they are happy to fix it :rockout:

One more thing the wide choice of games is what brings me to like the 360 i mean it has exclusives like Gears of War and Forza 2.

Seriously guys get it in ur skull the ps3 is trying to compete with pcs not console, it has keyboard and mouse support and linux and media capability.
Forcing you to have blu ray rather than the choice is what makes blu ray more used.

kieran_fletchShut it the xbox 360 has a wide selection of games that run at good speeds and look great.
So what get pc or a dvd player to play your media simple.
Xbox 360 isnt a bad console and certainly the ps3 isnt "superior" both have pluses and minuses and for one i prefer the xbox 360 mines hasnt broken yet and i hardly notice the heat yes it is noisy but sometimes if im on the pc or the volume of the game seems to cover up the small noise.

Microsoft noticed that the 360 had a problem and corrected it and if yours has a problem they are happy to fix it :rockout:

One more thing the wide choice of games is what brings me to like the 360 i mean it has exclusives like Gears of War and Forza 2.

Seriously guys get it in ur skull the ps3 is trying to compete with pcs not console, it has keyboard and mouse support and linux and media capability.
Forcing you to have blu ray rather than the choice is what makes blu ray more used.

I agree that the 360 is a great console and that the PS3 and the 360 both have its pluses and minuses.
The problem I have is that the Xbox360 does NOT have many exclusives anymore.
Now you may list Gears of War and other games like that.
But these are not exclusives since they are also on the PC.
An exclusive is a game that is ONLY on that system and the PC is a second system.
That is my main reason for not getting a 360 (besides the failure rate).
Why spend another $300+ on another console when its going to come out for the PC anyways.

Waldoinsc"We will wait until we hear from Toshiba before announcing any specific plans around the Xbox 360 HD DVD player. "

Foxnews.com (www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331150,00.html) just posted that Toshiba has called it quits for HD DVD....seems everyone is jumping off the sinking ship and trying to minimize their losses.

you mean Faux News

i never trust them.

the 2 reports i read dont flat out say toshiba is dumping all hd-dvd, so we will see, i agree hd is fuxed but it may stick around as a media format for burning and for xbx360 games.......

I can't help but feel a little sorry for those people who have gone out and bought standalown HDDVD players, knowing now that very shortly there will be little or no movies supporting the format however I suppose the one small consolation is that you can still play standard DVD's on them and they will "upscale" to better resolutions.

bruins004The problem I have is that the Xbox360 does NOT have many exclusives anymore.
Now you may list Gears of War and other games like that.
But these are not exclusives since they are also on the PC.
anyways.

I agree, why spend money on an Xbox or any console, when the majority of them are coming to the PC. But you have to bare in mind that many of the exclusive games such as Halo and Gears of War take up to a year to arrive on the PC, so you have to the prepared to wait for Microsoft or Sony or the games developers to break their exclusivity rule and it's not always guaranteed.

with the amount of money that MS makes on other products i doubt the loss of a HD is going to make much of a dent in total earnings

www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/02/red_ring_of_death_returns.html

LOL, a demo 360 RRoD at GDC.

ktrwww.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/02/red_ring_of_death_returns.html

LOL, a demo 360 RRoD at GDC.

lol thats the second vide i see the ohter one was in a shopping mall

theres alot of talk now that ms will drop the 360 hd dvd drive in the uk first then the us, it sucks for everyone who bought that drive because hd dvd is definitely going out the door now

its dead

Michael Bay thought MS was just pushing for HD DVD to get a huge war going so that in the end, it was all about digital downloads, which would make them even more money <G>