Saturday, June 28th 2008

Intel Skips Windows Vista

Now that Microsoft officially confirmed support for Windows XP until year 2014, Intel has decided to skip upgrading to Windows Vista. The chip giant won't upgrade the computers of its own 80,000 employees to Microsoft's Vista operating system, according to a person close to Intel's IT department. "This isn't a matter of dissing Microsoft, but Intel information technology staff just found no compelling case for adopting Vista," the person said. There's no official reason for this decision, but it's quite obvious that Vista is still not mature enough to succeed Windows XP. Sad but true. Meanwhile, the next version of Windows codenamed Windows 7 is scheduled to go on sale in January 2010. By skipping Vista, Intel dooms its workers to Windows XP for at least two more years.
Source: New York Times
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27 Comments on Intel Skips Windows Vista

#1
blkhogan
malwareBy skipping Vista, Intel dooms its workers to Windows XP for at least two more years.

Source: New York Times
Doooooooomed I say. Doooooomed!
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#2
erocker
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It just doesn't make much sense to buy thousands of copies of Vista for business computers. Just a waste of money really.
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#3
mullered07
malwareNow that Microsoft officially confirmed support for Windows XP until year 2014, Intel has decided to skip upgrading to Windows Vista. The chip giant won't upgrade the computers of its own 80,000 employees to Microsoft’s Vista operating system, according to a person close to Intel's IT department. "This isn’t a matter of dissing Microsoft, but Intel information technology staff just found no compelling case for adopting Vista," the person said. There's no official reason for this decision, but it's quite obvious that Vista is still not mature enough to succeed Windows XP. Sad but true. Meanwhile, the next version of Windows codenamed Windows 7 is scheduled to go on sale in January 2010. By skipping Vista, Intel dooms its workers to Windows XP for at least two more years.

Source: New York Times
a person close to intels IT dept :confused: so they use terminology like "dissing" over at intel :laugh:

id also like to know what exactly they mean by not mature enough :confused: i think if anything the reason for not adopting vista is going to mean a complete overhaul of there entire network and for a company of intels size this is no easy task and comes with a hell of a lot of complications.

heck a lot of large companys still use win NT for this exact reason and its stability.
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#4
freaksavior
To infinity ... and beyond!
malwareit's quite obvious that Vista is still not mature enough to succeed Windows XP. Sad but true.
:banghead:

GET OVER IT!
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#5
mullered07
i personally find vista to be the mosta stable windows ive ever used, but why indeed spend hundreds of thousands or indeed millions when xp is efficient enough to do the job at hand, no offense to you malware, i love your news threads btw. but i hardly think this is news i dont know many companies that have switched to vista as it offers little improvment (in a business sense) over xp its not like going from 95>98 or 98> xp afterall
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#6
Kreij
Senior Monkey Moderator
mullered07id also like to know what exactly they mean by not mature enough :confused: i think if anything the reason for not adopting vista is going to mean a complete overhaul of there entire network .
Putting Vista on their desktops would not require an overhaul of their network.
It works just like XP from an IT standpoint.
I can, however, see why they feel there is no compelling reason to do so.
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#7
mullered07
KreijPutting Vista on their desktops would not require an overhaul of their network..
upgrading maybe 10,000-20,000 pc's from xp to vista is no easy task is my point. and there are unneccessary complications that will arise from such an upgrade
KreijIt works just like XP from an IT standpoint.
I can, however, see why they feel there is no compelling reason to do so
pretty much how i explained it in my 2nd post :toast:
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#8
FatForester
I don't blame them a bit. I see Vista as just a consumer based OS, whereas XP is more suited for everyone... price and performance speaking.
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#9
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
FatForesterI don't blame them a bit. I see Vista as just a consumer based OS, whereas XP is more suited for everyone... price and performance speaking.
i agree totally i love my vista install (most of the time :mad: ) but honestly when i want to run my server or program on my newely made code box i use XP fast clean plain....sure the icons arent pretty but i could care less ill look at it for about 2sec before im looking at pages of code i need to debig...or on my server...its a file transfer server and a gaming one so most of the time when looking at it you see a black screen with white letters that have the came version ip address and players on. I love vista but in all honesty i think it has too much overhang for such applications as code boxes and game servers dont usually need the most ighend hardware to run at their prime vista bogs them down...not dissing vista though i love it just preferance.
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#10
zithe
erockerIt just doesn't make much sense to buy thousands of copies of Vista for business computers. Just a waste of money really.
Yeah. Also business computers are really built to do what they need in the OS they're going to put on them. Installing vista may force them to do some upgrading, tacking MORE money onto something they don't need.
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#12
Disparia
Yeah, out of 65 stations that I oversee 50 of them are call center/sales/shipping department stations. They run a Navision client, Outlook, IE/FF, and an IM messenger. Any 1Ghz+/512MB box with XP runs this well.

Not that we have anything that slow in service today... we in IT upgrade so frequently that there are a lot of hand-me-down machines available :D Management got our C2D's when we went Q6600.
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#13
imperialreign
malwareNow that Microsoft officially confirmed support for Windows XP until year 2014, Intel has decided to skip upgrading to Windows Vista. The chip giant won't upgrade the computers of its own 80,000 employees to Microsoft’s Vista operating system, according to a person close to Intel's IT department. "This isn’t a matter of dissing Microsoft, but Intel information technology staff just found no compelling case for adopting Vista," the person said. There's no official reason for this decision, but it's quite obvious that Vista is still not mature enough to succeed Windows XP. Sad but true. Meanwhile, the next version of Windows codenamed Windows 7 is scheduled to go on sale in January 2010. By skipping Vista, Intel dooms its workers to Windows XP for at least two more years.

Source: New York Times
let me translate Intelish speak . . .
"In light of recent events of our coming under fire worldwide for anti-trust laws, and more importantly now that the US FTC is investigating us, we've decided the money we would've invested into Windows Vista would serve us better to be put into a high-yield savings account until such time that these investigations are complete . . . just in case we are found guilty for any reason, it won't hurt our corporate wallet too bad . . .

. . . this is also the reason why we haven't upgraded to any nVidia hardware over the last 2 years; and besides, nVidia thinks we're more evil than they are."
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#14
thoughtdisorder
Don't blame them a bit. Why spend the time, the money, the effort as well as the learning curve for the employees? I'm sure there was no "fanboi" logic used in the decision, just good business logic.:p
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#15
spacejunky
mullered07but i hardly think this is news i dont know many companies that have switched to vista as it offers little improvment (in a business sense) over xp its not like going from 95>98 or 98> xp afterall
The reason you don't think it's news is because you have read this news regarding other companies, meaning if someone hadn't thought of it as news before, it would be news to you.

BTW, don't you see the irony of the company that made Microsoft great, and vice versa, not use their latest product.
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#16
WhiteLotus
I don't blame Intel at all for doing this. To do such a task is going to involve expenditure Vista for one, and then getting the employees to learn a new OS. When i was first played around with a Vista OS i was like WTF??? and i can guarantee that many of the employees will be the same. It just saves money, and time, for them not to do this. Makes perfect sense.
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#17
MKmods
Case Mod Guru
But the poor folks at Intel wont be able to use Aero while at their desks
or play Mahjong Titans...:laugh:
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#18
AsRock
TPU addict
erockerIt just doesn't make much sense to buy thousands of copies of Vista for business computers. Just a waste of money really.
Yeah really, not for 2 years lmao.
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#19
Nitro-Max
I still cant belive ppeople buy single core laptops etc with vista on it!! how slow they must be all the extra processes running its insane. you can run xp on 256mb of ram on a cheap laptop try that with vista lol.
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#20
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
i can see reason behind this now instead of being fucking slow prescott based clereron workstations they remain slow prescott based clereron workstations
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#21
Triprift
Yeah big deal doesnt mean Vista is bad or anything if Intel want to use xp thats there choice.
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#22
Judas
Well if they don't need to change then why change ? In the long run it saves them a lot of money by not changing :)
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#23
lemonadesoda
There's no official reason for this decision, but it's quite obvious that Vista is still not mature enough to succeed Windows XP. Sad but true.
Nonesense!
Intel is not upgrading to Vista because there is no business benefit. No company workflow will improve, be faster, or simpler by the new OS. But there are significant costs:
  • Employees need to be trained
  • Some software may be incompatible
  • IT team needs to install new OS everywhere
  • Significant costs and downtime
IMO Intel made the right decision. But is has NOTHING to do with "Vista not mature, buggy, or no good". It's a simple matter of cost/benefit. Cost large. Benefit small. QED.
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#24
tkpenalty
I am officially never going to upgrade to vista, as of a horrible experience i've had with it today, it is so counterproductive AND frustrating. I swapped motherboards, and expected to be able to install windows, was I? No. Because the ownership of the HDD was with "another computer". While there is sercurity to consider, it wasted me time; I didnt have ANYTHING to format the disk. Even if I did, its so counterproductive, I spent the whole day trying to verify if the HDD was dead...

I ended up having to use the XP install disc to format, THEN install vista.

Fail.
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#25
AsRock
TPU addict
tkpenaltyI am officially never going to upgrade to vista, as of a horrible experience i've had with it today, it is so counterproductive AND frustrating. I swapped motherboards, and expected to be able to install windows, was I? No. Because the ownership of the HDD was with "another computer". While there is sercurity to consider, it wasted me time; I didnt have ANYTHING to format the disk. Even if I did, its so counterproductive, I spent the whole day trying to verify if the HDD was dead...

I ended up having to use the XP install disc to format, THEN install vista.

Fail.
Why not format with Vista's DVD ?..
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