Thursday, January 28th 2010

Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

AMD's upcoming six-core desktop processor, codenamed "Thuban" is on course for a May 2010, suggests a report. The series is likely to receive the brand name Phenom II X6. There are four models planned for release within Q2, 2010. The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Istanbul core, in the socket AM3 package, supporting dual-channel DDR3 memory. It is a monolithic multi-core design with six x86-64 cores, each with 128 KB of L1, 512 KB of L2 cache, and a 6 MB L3 cache shared between the six cores. Just as with K10 dual, triple, and quad core processors where AMD used a HyperTransport interface clock speed of 1800 MHz (3600 MT/s), or 2000 MHz (4000 MT/s), the new processor will take advantage of HyperTransport 3.x interface, with a HT speed of 2400 MHz (4800 MT/s). Thuban will be built on GlobalFoundaries' 45 nm node.

The table below lists out details of the four planned models. The model number of the top part isn't known. Most likely it is a Black Edition part, which comes with an unlocked BClk multiplier. It operates at 2.80 GHz, with a TDP of 140W. A step below is the Phenom II X6 1075T, which has an expected TDP of 125W, the 1055T is a notch below, and 1035T being the cheapest part. The exact clock speeds of the latter three models isn't known as yet. A month ahead of releasing these chips, AMD will announce the AMD 8-series chipset platform, led by 890FX (high-end, best for CrossFireX), 890GX (performance integrated graphics with CrossFire support). The AMD SB800 series southbridge chips will feature native support for SATA 6 Gb/s. Its on-die SATA controller gives out six SATA ports complete with RAID support. Some existing AM3 motherboards based on 7-series chipsets may also support Phenom II X6 with a BIOS update.
Source: OCWorkbench
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277 Comments on Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

#76
TIGR
I don't think I'll bother upgrading again until 22nm 8+ core CPUs are available and software support for lots of parallel threads is ubiquitous. DX11 seems like a promising catalyst for the effort.
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#77
Konceptz
:) I might just have to cross back over to AMD. I can't lie I've always had the itch to build a Dragon platform, besides my 780i is starting to show its age.
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#78
PP Mguire
Lol so put it in a better board and still rip on the modern Phenoms with your aging Yorkfield :roll:
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#79
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
PP MguireLol so put it in a better board and still rip on the modern Phenoms with your aging Yorkfield :roll:
Problem is 775 is dead now. X58, P55 or AMD platforms are evolving and moving fowards. Well P55 not so much unless intel start bringing out cpu's with more core's.
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#80
PP Mguire
P55 was made for mainstread but because Core is so far ahead of everyone else it seems almost like an enthusiast level platform. I really expect this socket to be dead real soon but hey this cpu i have should last like 2 or 3 more years even for a hardcore gamer. I really dont believe in the whole, "lets strap on 2 more cores, lower the clock speed to compensate for power and heat, and keep the price low so fanboys still buy it" attitude. If Intel dosent have competition i dont think the technology will increase as rapidly as it is now. Unless AMD can pull their heads outa their asses like ATI and bring a bitch slap to the table.
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#81
Konceptz
DrPepperProblem is 775 is dead now. X58, P55 or AMD platforms are evolving and moving fowards. Well P55 not so much unless intel start bringing out cpu's with more core's.
exactly, and quite frankly I'm tired of quad cores, I know there isn't a lot of programs that multithread but the OS does and I encode HD content heavily, that and i'm itching to build a new rig, so when we see some real performance I'll either get this or the intel gulftown. Only time will tell..
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#82
PP Mguire
Dont get 980x, just get a Xeon equivalent. Itll save you alot of money.
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#83
Konceptz
PP MguireDont get 980x, just get a Xeon equivalent. Itll save you alot of money.
oh I know, that and plus the server chips tend to overclock better.
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#84
TIGR
I've found the Xeons tend to overclock not necessarily higher, but as high with lower voltage.
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#85
Kitkat
PP MguireP55 was made for mainstread but because Core is so far ahead of everyone else it seems almost like an enthusiast level platform. I really expect this socket to be dead real soon but hey this cpu i have should last like 2 or 3 more years even for a hardcore gamer. I really dont believe in the whole, "lets strap on 2 more cores, lower the clock speed to compensate for power and heat, and keep the price low so fanboys still buy it" attitude. If Intel dosent have competition i dont think the technology will increase as rapidly as it is now. Unless AMD can pull their heads outa their asses like ATI and bring a bitch slap to the table.
and that sounds like fanboy talk.
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#86
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Hmmm, Stick Grab a 965 BE or go with a Hexcore? Or SHould i go with a Dual BE and then upgrade, decisions decisions.
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#87
theonedub
habe fidem
Im hoping my Gigabyte 785G board will support these will a firmware update :D
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#88
MKmods
Case Mod Guru
lol, this thread made me remember when the quads first came out and I kept insisting how un necessary they were over the duals..(typing this using my AMD 965:o)

Ever forward AMD
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#89
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
theonedubIm hoping my Gigabyte 785G board will support these will a firmware update :D
Rest Assured the 770 with 710 and Higher Chipsets will support the Hexcores aslong as your board supports 140W CPUs and is AM3 (DDR3 Only!), just falls down to what the Friggin board makers want to do actually.
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#91
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
I'm wild-guessing "Zosma" is a six core with two cores disabled.
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#92
Kantastic
btarunrI'm wild-guessing "Zosma" is a six core with two cores disabled.
Isn't that just a Phenom II X4?

Edit: Oh I just saw the graph. :D
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#93
devguy
KantasticIsn't that just a Phenom II X4?

Edit: Oh I just saw the graph. :D
While at first glance, that might seem unnecessary, let us see what AMD has done for the DDR3 memory controller on the Thuban. Without a DDR2 controller, they can put more effort into the DDR3 one, and hopefully we'll see the ability to see stock 4 Dimm support for PC3-12800 (or at least 10666). Possibly even overclock ability for PC3-16000 with 2 Dimms.

Worst case scenario, we see the "unlocking fiasco" continue...
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#94
PP Mguire
Kitkatand that sounds like fanboy talk.
Except i have a complete AMD background and this is practically my first Intel chip from a Pentium 1. I had an e8400 and got rid of it for a 940 within a week. :nutkick:

Hell AMD is still in my sig from my AM3 days. SO no, not fanboy talk.
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#96
Kei
What's wrong with 2.8Ghz....there's 6 cores remember? Not to mention if they've done further optimizations then 2.8Ghz on the X6 would be greater than 2.8Ghz on the X4 PII's just like 2.8Ghz PII is greater than 2.8Ghz PI.

Kei
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#97
Flyordie
DFI is nice. I got a padded envelope from DFI. :-\ Read the flash drive that was in the package and it was a BIOS update for my board... with a flash program that supports flashing the BIOS in windows with a 64-bit OS.

The readme said it adds support for
1050
1055
1035

All under the Phenom II X6 moniker.

BIOS Date is 1/22/10.
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#98
TIGR
KeiWhat's wrong with 2.8Ghz....there's 6 cores remember? Not to mention if they've done further optimizations then 2.8Ghz on the X6 would be greater than 2.8Ghz on the X4 PII's just like 2.8Ghz PII is greater than 2.8Ghz PI.

Kei
I think people are largely thinking of software that can't take advantage of all cores, so that clock rate matters more for many things, especially games. It will probably be a few years before ubiquitous multi-core software support erases sub-quad core CPUs from the market, and until that time, there will continue to be demand for high-clocking dual and triple cores over lower clocked 4, 6, and 8 core CPUs.

I do wonder what, if any optimizations might come between the current models and this.
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#99
Flyordie
The PII X6 is essentially Istanbul.
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#100
Kei
TIGRI think people are largely thinking of software that can't take advantage of all cores, so that clock rate matters more for many things, especially games. It will probably be a few years before ubiquitous multi-core software support erases sub-quad core CPUs from the market, and until that time, there will continue to be demand for high-clocking dual and triple cores over lower clocked 4, 6, and 8 core CPUs.

I do wonder what, if any optimizations might come between the current models and this.
I totally understand where those people are coming from, but why are those people even contemplating looking at something they know they'll never use anyway. :p

If I were those people I'd be looking into the X2's, X3's, i3's, or i5 duals and leave this other stuff to the people that are actually gonna use it. I see absolutely no reason for 90% of the users here to worry about/"upgrade" to the X6's when they come out. Sure it's great for marketshare so by all means go for it, but not if you're gonna complain that it's not slaughtering or making your 4Ghz dual or tri obselete lol. :shadedshu

Kei
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