Friday, November 25th 2011
Microsoft Working On Not One, But Two New Xbox Product Lines
Finally, next generation gaming consoles are around the corner. It will have an uplifting effect on the entire gaming industry as it will raise the bar for visual and technical detail in games. Many of today's games are designed keeping consoles in mind, and so their PC platform versions don't look much more than what has come to be known as "console-ports". There are a few exceptions to this, but it would be refreshing to see most game developers move on to creating games that take advantage of today's insanely powerful PC platform, because the console platform will have caught up technologically.
Rumors have it, that Microsoft will be developing not one, but two product lines that succeed the Xbox 360, and we're not talking about product variants here, but two distinct lines. The first of the two will be an entry-level console designed more like a set-top box, designed around the Kinect controller (perhaps something to compete against Nintendo Wii U). The second product line will be the one that will be supercharged with the latest technologies that will raise the bar in graphics. It will compete with whatever succeeds the Playstation 3. There is talk that it will pack a 6 core processor, an AMD-made GPU, and 2 GB of fast DDR3 memory. This console could be unveiled to the world (although not launched), at the CES event held in January. Meanwhile, Microsoft is allowing TSMC some time to refine its 28 nm bulk process.
Source:
TechSpot
Rumors have it, that Microsoft will be developing not one, but two product lines that succeed the Xbox 360, and we're not talking about product variants here, but two distinct lines. The first of the two will be an entry-level console designed more like a set-top box, designed around the Kinect controller (perhaps something to compete against Nintendo Wii U). The second product line will be the one that will be supercharged with the latest technologies that will raise the bar in graphics. It will compete with whatever succeeds the Playstation 3. There is talk that it will pack a 6 core processor, an AMD-made GPU, and 2 GB of fast DDR3 memory. This console could be unveiled to the world (although not launched), at the CES event held in January. Meanwhile, Microsoft is allowing TSMC some time to refine its 28 nm bulk process.
81 Comments on Microsoft Working On Not One, But Two New Xbox Product Lines
Console ports exist because there is a larger user base for consoles, prompting developers to code for them first and then port it over to the PC.
The new consoles' user base will be much smaller than the PC, so developers will have to decide whether to code for the last-gen (PS3) or the new-gen (PS4)/PC.
Meaning the PC and PS4 will be equal.You make a very uninformed argument.
PC games do come on DL-DVDs, but they are not played from the disk; they are installed onto the hard drive.
Not to mention, Crytek has spoken out on the extreme methods they used to compress the data so it would fit onto a DL-DVD.
If consoles still rely on plug-and-play directly from a disk, it better be Blu-ray.
and i too think that DVD will hold the consoles back. they need large hard drives, and they need to install to it by *default*
Have they learned nothing?
I mean I don't doubt what you're saying :rolleyes: however saying you said this a year ago when you have 2 posts in total both from this month/this year, think about it.
P.S I told overyone here on TPU that you would come and post this 5 years ago, get the f**k in, my son!!! :rockout: The oracle has spoken :p
Some would not trade anything for mice and keyboard but they don't want to deal with driver updates and other PC related nonsense. I sort of understand you there...
Wow, most people here say the same damn thing. I realize it is a hardware enthusiast site, but give it a rest for Christ sake! None of us "bottom feeder" console players will want to play MW4 on a gay keyboard and mouse. Cinema 4k resolution will not be affordable until playstation 5 comes out so 1080p is the law of the land - 2GB video ram will do just fine. People here always cry about consoles holding them back, but if it wasn't for the consoles most of the game play advances would not exist. -end rant
Mouse doesn't bring superior movement in FPS, you end up having to use the keyboard to move which is not really the best system ever thought of. So it's not completely one sided there either.
In short, it feels weird to you because your not used to it.
Just cause one person posts something doesn't mean that is the majority's view.
There are quite a few console players on here actually though you hit the nail on the head, it's an tech hardware enthusiast forum and not a console forum otherwise you could bitch and moan about how us PC gamers are idiots and console gaming is much better.
You don't want to play MW4 on a gay KB, then perhaps you should se if they stock hetrosexual keyboards or stop being such a homophobe.
NO ONE has mentioned 4k cinema resolution so whilst you feel the need to stick up for console gamers everywhere for the odd silly remark which is fine, don't just add stuff as you like to make your
ranttantrum look more justified.A lot of the points raised are valid and whether you like it or not that won't change them. And if it wasn't for consoles most of the game advances would be miles further than they are now.
So if you wanna spit your dummy cause we're console hating go somewhere it will wash. :laugh:
Disclaimer : I could be wrong.
Oh, and :nutkick:
add in to the fact that you only need a 4x speed Blu-ray to have equal speed with a 12x speed DVD (1x Blu-ray speed is roughly 3 times as fast as 1x DVD speed)
Having Blu-ray as a distribution medium is a great idea even if ignoring what he said about it
+Most people prefer having 1 Blu-ray then 2-3 DVD's, means you don't have to wait ages to play the game, and you don't need a pointlessly large hard drive
the reason PC games don't come on Blu-ray is because 95% of PC's don't have Blu-ray drives but do have massive amounts of storage space
I have a ps3. I also have my computer running as well but only dvd.
Blu-ray is technically the successor of DVD9, it just is, even with way lower distribution counts, someone will eventually figure it out.
DVD's for me scratch easier then a back of my iPod, and they also seem a bit more fragile then the blu-ray cousin.
I can have blu-ray disk out and scattered about, and there scratch proof, way way way (redundant i know) less scratch proof and durable then dvd's.
I can actually watch movies at full 1080p, because I am a pixel freak, and dvd's let me down when you see the lower resolution outputs regardless.
I literally have bought tons of used Blu-rays, to look at them and tell myself there practically new. I have Blu-rays laying around like cup holders and they will work 100% of the time.
What if the standard resolution of 1080p rises to even higher values, which will probably be the case, dvd's might have a slightly harder time after that.
Cartridges for the old gaming platform were miracle tuff, but eventually they still got wear'd down where you just could not get a game to start on insertion.
Blu-ray, is small and consumes less space, way harder to tear up(personally), same overall dimensions so there are no drastic changes, and holds way more data then any dvd. It just seems logical to move on to that, where blu-ray can completely excel in every part of today's technology without fail.
But then there's digital downloads, and that is a whole different ball game.
The way the flash memory and DRAM markets are doing these days, if Microsoft plays its "cards" well, it could even create a new flash-based media that's dirt-cheap to game publishers (even more so than BD-R).
I still think the next big thing with console games distribution will be consoles shipping with terabytes of local storage and games being distributed over the internet (like Steam and Origin have already achieved on PC, so did Xbox360 and PS3's native content distribution systems).
<rant>I don't know what's wrong with me, but I'm getting annoyed a lot more these days. People annoy me, that never happened in the olden days. That's why I'm getting angry and resorting to name calling.</rant>