Friday, March 10th 2017

You Really Shouldn't Delid AMD's Ryzen 7 CPUs

Power users sometimes really go the extra mile towards achieving the best performance on their hardware. And sometimes, this process includes delidding, as in, removing the processor's Integrated Heatspreader (IHS). This would allow for users to sometimes replace less than perfect TIM (Thermal Interface Material) companies use, achieving lower operating temperatures, and possibly even higher overclocks.

Well, you really shouldn't try to do so with AMD's Ryzen 7. The reason: attempting to delid said processors cost overclocking genius der8auer a grand total of 3 (three!) Ryzen 7 samples before he managed to do it without damaging the processor. This happens because contrary to other CPUs, AMD's Ryzen 7 IHS comes soldered to the chip, which obviously increases difficulty and risk of such a delidding process. Apparently, AMD did a pretty good job with the thermal interfaces of Ryzen 7 anyway - der8auer achieved only a 2ºC decrease in operating temperatures on the delidded Ryzen sample. Long story short: maybe it's not worth it. Especially if your cooling solution of choice isn't able to achieve proper contact with the CPU after the process. You can see a video of the direct cooling test, after the break.
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56 Comments on You Really Shouldn't Delid AMD's Ryzen 7 CPUs

#51
silkstone
R-T-BHe's not saying they can't, it has a higher failure rate to solder small dies. Which is true. Again, it comes down to money, but at least for Intel a lost chip here and there is a slightly more legit expense than a simple cost of materials for solder.
I can't imagine they physical cost of materials and energy for making a CPU is high. Most of the cost will be for the machinery and licences.

It's only a very slightly more legitimate expense.
R-T-BHe's not saying they can't, it has a higher failure rate to solder small dies. Which is true. Again, it comes down to money, but at least for Intel a lost chip here and there is a slightly more legit expense than a simple cost of materials for solder.
I can't imagine they physical cost of materials and energy for making a CPU is high. Most of the cost will be for the machinery and licences.

It's only a very slightly more legitimate exp
DarkHillif they didnt solder, there seem to be evidence that the cpu would overheat - based on the temps at it is they NEEDED to user solder to even reach the (very) minor OC of the 1800x

On the other hand kabylake still reaches 4.8-5.1 depending on the lottery. Would it be nicer to reach this with 10-20 C lower? yes - but it still does it.

Intel uses solder on HEDT because its needed there and paste on mainstream becauses its not. Overclockers can void their warrenty, delid at get 100-200 MHz more at lower temps. But its just business strategy - plain and simple, you cant fault them for that (although im sure there are plenty of entitled people that will).
It'll be interesting to see what AMD do with their Quad and Hexa-core chips that shouldn't 'need' solder.
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#52
DarkHill
silkstoneIt'll be interesting to see what AMD do with their Quad and Hexa-core chips that shouldn't 'need' solder.
I think the cost of setting up different production lines will void the gain of not soldering since it seems all the ryzen cpus are physically identical.
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#53
Evangeline
ImsochoboOne chip
Juan Chip does plenty.
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#54
m1dg3t
It took 9 days for this to become 'news' on TPU? Wow.
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#55
ADHDGAMING
erixxNobody told derBauer? Oh oh oh...
Im also surprised, AMD has a history of IHS set ups like this lol .. But hes the Delid guy if its a CPU, he delids it its kind of his thing. He will likely Delid the R5s and R3s too.
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#56
Vayra86
One does not simply enter Ryzen.
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