Saturday, October 7th 2017
German Company to Sell Binned Core i7 8700K With 99.9% Silver Heatspreader
For those users who thought they'd like some silver with their Intel, german webshop Caseking has a product for you. The company has taken the binning concept that we've already seen with other webshops, which pass the onus of the silicon lottery towards themselves, and taken it to the next level. Caseking will offer Core i7 8700K products that have not only been binned towards achieving guaranteed speeds of 5 GHz, 5.1 GHz and 5.2 GHz, but they're also retrofitting these binned 8700K processors with a 99.9% purity silver heatspreader to improve operating temperatures for these guaranteed-overclocking processors.
Caseking is basically testing batches of i7 8700K processors, delidding them, and then applying Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut liquid metal thermal grease and the aforementioned silver heatspreader to improve operating temperatures as much as they can be. The company is doing this in partnership with overclocking poster child der8auer, and brands the silver IHS with both Caseking's and Der8auer's logo. The silver heatspreader versions of the Core i7 8700K are being sold as the Ultra Edition, and Caseking are asking a hefty premium for their binned CPUs: €690 will get you an 8700K that is guaranteed to clock up to 5.0 GHz, €750 will guarantee 5.1 GHz, and the premium of premiums (for now, we'd imagine) 5.2 GHz overclockable processor will cost €870.
These are some hefty, hefty price premiums to be sure; however, the company really is taking many risks out of their prospective buyer's hands, in that they not only won't have to bet on the silicon lottery to get some good results, but also won't have to run the risk of delidding their six-core Intel CPU. There's also an Advanced Edition (stock heatspreader with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut) and a Pro Edition (Niquel-plated heatspreader with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut) available, for lower prices than the silver options.
Sources:
Caseking, via Guru 3D
109 Comments on German Company to Sell Binned Core i7 8700K With 99.9% Silver Heatspreader
Edit: they are actually selling delidded i5 8600ks too.
www.techpowerup.com/237613/intel-core-i7-8700k-already-ocd-to-7-45-ghz-under-ln2-100-frequency-increase
But for now i stick to my trusty I7 980X.
Someone finds a way to turn something he knows a lot about into business, and bunch of random forum heroes immediatelly start mocking him, insulting him, and babbling other stupid crap.
What are you, 14 years old?
Although, just checking, it's double the price. In this case, it's cheaper to just buy one, check it and if clocks badly, sell it at a tiny loss. Repeat until you find a good one. You'll waste less money with loses for selling used one with warranty than buying a verified one for double the price from get go. Unless you can't be bothered and you don't care about price.
And before anyone says it, any coating that would prevent oxidation will also create a thermal insulation layer, again negating the desired effect. This only way this would work is to alloy silver with a metal that prevents oxidation. The problem with that possibility is that there are only a few metals that can be alloyed in such a way while preserving the desired thermal conductivity, and all of them are very expensive and the process to create a stable alloy is also expensive. This is a fools effort all the way around. Of course, considering the market sector this product is aimed at, it's par for the course.
Silicon Lottery.com does it...it's fine. CaseKing.de does it...it's somehow controversial.
Double standard much?
:wtf:That would actually be worse than the copper heatspreader it came with.Basically. Since the thermal conductivity of silver is not significantly higher than copper. I doubt it would make more than 1-2°C difference(if that).Point not missed on me. Though it's totally irrelevant. Why? Because copper does the same thing. And it's widely used for such purposes(not nickel plated in heat sinks, or nickel plating removed from IHS by lapping). And...you said it yourself...exposure to air it what causes it. There is no exposure to air when covered in TIM. So oxidation is not going to happen. And you're blowing the effects of oxidation way out of proportion anyway. It's a microscopic layer that has no real/significant impact on thermal conductivity. That's laughable.
Once it's outdated I can wear it on a chain!! :D:D
It's solid silver. TIM isn't on every square inch, so oxidation is going to happen. Also silver tarnishes very quickly, much faster and worse than copper.Unless you know, people just don't want to mess around and want a fast chip quick.
It's great you think people who buy there are stupid. As a customer in the past, I will be sure and file that under "don't care."
But we all know that is not why it is being bought...
Why do ppls overclock their CPUs? That's because they would like to get every extra ounce of performance out of their CPUs without paying the premium.
IMHO, what this German retailer does defeats the purpose of OC.
"So why does Ryzen use solder then?" I can't say for certain, and there's no way to know since removing its IHS destroys the chip, but I'm pretty sure that solder is the only way that AMD could get acceptable thermals on Ryzen. A side effect is that a soldered IHS is good PR for AMD, something they desperately need after Bulldozer (a monkey that will be hanging on their back for many years to come).
I'm quite certain that if AMD could get away with using crap TIM, they would. We may even see it on the next iteration of Ryzen, assuming Samsung/GloFo can actually tweak their process to allow higher clocks than 4GHz.The reason "heat"spreaders were introduced was far more to do with preventing CPU dies being destroyed by the ever-larger and ever-more-tightly-pressing coolers that were being released, than due to heat dissipation concerns.