Saturday, October 7th 2017
German Company to Sell Binned Core i7 8700K With 99.9% Silver Heatspreader
For those users who thought they'd like some silver with their Intel, german webshop Caseking has a product for you. The company has taken the binning concept that we've already seen with other webshops, which pass the onus of the silicon lottery towards themselves, and taken it to the next level. Caseking will offer Core i7 8700K products that have not only been binned towards achieving guaranteed speeds of 5 GHz, 5.1 GHz and 5.2 GHz, but they're also retrofitting these binned 8700K processors with a 99.9% purity silver heatspreader to improve operating temperatures for these guaranteed-overclocking processors.
Caseking is basically testing batches of i7 8700K processors, delidding them, and then applying Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut liquid metal thermal grease and the aforementioned silver heatspreader to improve operating temperatures as much as they can be. The company is doing this in partnership with overclocking poster child der8auer, and brands the silver IHS with both Caseking's and Der8auer's logo. The silver heatspreader versions of the Core i7 8700K are being sold as the Ultra Edition, and Caseking are asking a hefty premium for their binned CPUs: €690 will get you an 8700K that is guaranteed to clock up to 5.0 GHz, €750 will guarantee 5.1 GHz, and the premium of premiums (for now, we'd imagine) 5.2 GHz overclockable processor will cost €870.
These are some hefty, hefty price premiums to be sure; however, the company really is taking many risks out of their prospective buyer's hands, in that they not only won't have to bet on the silicon lottery to get some good results, but also won't have to run the risk of delidding their six-core Intel CPU. There's also an Advanced Edition (stock heatspreader with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut) and a Pro Edition (Niquel-plated heatspreader with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut) available, for lower prices than the silver options.
Sources:
Caseking, via Guru 3D
109 Comments on German Company to Sell Binned Core i7 8700K With 99.9% Silver Heatspreader
The problem with your statement is that it reveals your misunderstanding of the material being discussed. Silver is very reactive with oxygen and it's oxides are oxygen permeable. This means that after silver oxidizes, oxygen will "soak" straight through the oxide layers and continue to react with the silver underneath. This is why silver tarnishes and continues to do so over time. And when heat is applied the reaction increases. Applying that knowledge to this topic of discussion, 99.9% pure silver begins to oxidize the moment it's created and will continue so long as oxygen is present in it's surroundings. In the case of a TIM, that will be applied only after silver oxide layering begins and unless you cover the entire surface with a TIM that is not oxygen permeable, the process of oxidation will continue through the surface of the IHS under the TIM itself. Within a year, thermal conductivity will fall below a level needed to prevent the die from heat damage. This is why silver is NOT used as a heatsink material, unless alloyed with other metals. This is research that has already been done. Research that the company involved has either ignored or was too incompetent to look up.
New world record I guess ☺ . .
they pretend to race.. but in reality one team is just cruising not running any faster than it has to to stay in front.. the other team is really trying to catch up.. sometime it might appear to catch up or get close but the other cruising team will always have some performance in reserve.. we call this over clocking but it aint really.. its just using some of that reserve that the stronger team will always have..
one team might well use solder instead of cheaper tim.. but its only cos they have to..
its kind of sad really because the always weaker team never does get a just reward for it efforts.. but its the way life works..
trog
Most users with a decent air cooler will get good results. Those who stay at normal 4.3Ghz all-core clocks can use 25$ coolers.
I'm running an 8700K right now at 4.9Ghz 1.284-1.306v on a rather simple watercooling loop. No TIM change, no de-lid
If digital, there is essentially no difference at all between cables that meet spec, cost be damned.
Its a slippery slope of misinformed customers making misinformed decisions. Already, even without the delid stories, we have forum topics left and right asking if 80 C is 'a safe temp' for whatever component... even though millions upon millions of components all over the world run that temp for years. And again: I have respect for people delidding their own CPUs as an enthusiast. But I have zero of that for people who simply buy the enthusiast dream; that reminds me a lot of people who EBAY an MMO account so they can go straight into end game and 'own everyone'. Its really quite twisted, like cheating in multiplayer environments.
Yes, this is the power of marketing, advertising, and of connecting your free blogs and guides to a store model with your own branded products. And that is why I get the foul taste. I really could care less about someone making money, but I can only have respect for a business model that is sound, and has integrity. This one has none.
trog
Not on a scope, not to the sound registered.
If signal cables are analog they can make a difference, if it's digital (HDMI, DP etc) no change.
Speaker cables - Unless you have kw engines that have powercables next to the speaker cables : no difference.
But delid is completely different as there is a major noticeable change.
Love all the mature comments tho :love: Wonder what would happen if I'd start to insult random people like you guys do it on the forums here....This, too :) Basically we do it because customers ask for it and of course any project like this is great for marketing (as you can see with your comments :p )debunked? Not sure if srs. Did you watch stuff as the OC3D update video where he confirmed it?
Ever wondered why all X399 Boards have different heatsinks now than compared to computex launch?
Why does ASUS update the Apex heatsink? Why is there a new X299 Strix with updated heatsink? Why does ASRock OC Formula suddenly have a 2nd heatsink connected with heatpipe?
You have to Expect to Be Trolled Ect By The ignorant and misinformed it Goes with Fame/infamy
some of us Respect you and Your Achievement's
Glad you Visited to put your Point of View You must Visit More Often :)
I learned over the years that the internet is not a nice place :D
Wish I had more time to check and reply on all forums tho. There is just too many of them =)
Some users are worried about oxidization - is this something you guys evaluated when choosing silver?
No trolling here - if the results are conservative and oxidization isn't an issue then this is a really novel advancement to delidding! Any chance we can buy untapped silver IHS if we're to delid ourselves?