Monday, December 4th 2017

Latest Intel Roadmap Slide Leaked, Next Core X is "Cascade Lake-X"

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The latest version of Intel's desktop client-platform roadmap has been leaked to the web, which reveals timelines and names of the company's upcoming product lines. To begin with, it states that Intel will upgrade its Core X high-end desktop (HEDT) product line only in Q4-2018. The new Core X HEDT processors will be based on the "Cascade Lake-X" silicon. This is the first appearance of the "Cascade Lake" micro-architecture. Intel is probably looking to differentiate its Ringbus-based multi-core processors (eg: "Coffee Lake," "Kaby Lake") from ones that use Mesh Interconnect (eg: "Skylake-X"), so people don't compare the single-threaded / less-parallized application performance between the two blindly.

Next up, Intel is poised to launch its second wave of 6-core, 4-core, and 2-core "Coffee Lake" processors in Q1-2018, with no mentions of an 8-core mainstream-desktop processor joining the lineup any time in 2018. These processors will be accompanied by more 300-series chipsets, namely the H370 Express, B360 Express, and H310 Express. Q1-2018 also sees Intel update its low-power processor lineup, with the introduction of the new "Gemini Lake" silicon, with 4-core and 2-core SoCs under the Pentium Silver and Celeron brands.
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16 Comments on Latest Intel Roadmap Slide Leaked, Next Core X is "Cascade Lake-X"

#1
the54thvoid
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Too many CPU's and CPU families. A while ago, in a time land forgot, it was easy to keep track of Intels chip strategy. Now it feels like they're simply shitting silicon skittles and classifying them by the colour. Taste the Cascading Rainbow.

I know they make good chips but by god, cant they freaking focus a little more? It's actually getting confusing as to what to buy. That's not good for the lay person.
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#2
Vya Domus
Intel is probably looking to differentiate its Ringbus-based multi-core processors (eg: "Coffee Lake," "Kaby Lake") from ones that use Mesh Interconnect (eg: "Skylake-X"), so people don't compare the single-threaded / less-parallized application performance between the two blindly.
That's so ironic , most people already ain't got a clue or don't care about these sorts of details and with this they take the confusion even further.

At this point I'm starting to believe that Intel's new tactic is to make their lineup so convoluted that people have a hard time figuring out it's shortcomings.
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#3
Prima.Vera
How about new Xeons CPUs? Is not like they don't already have 1000+ different series and types already that nobody can ever understand their purpose....
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#4
Vayra86
Well, the name fits, its a cascade indeed!
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#5
NTM2003
Will this be with ddr5 memory that’s when I was planning to upgrade skipping this gen for intel. ddr5 release for 2018 according to google search.
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#6
Gmr_Chick
the54thvoidToo many CPU's and CPU families. A while ago, in a time land forgot, it was easy to keep track of Intels chip strategy. Now it feels like they're simply shitting silicon skittles and classifying them by the colour. Taste the Cascading Rainbow.

I know they make good chips but by god, cant they freaking focus a little more? It's actually getting confusing as to what to buy. That's not good for the lay person.
You hit the nail on the head, my friend. And in a damn funny way too! :laugh:
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#7
EarthDog
The layperson has no idea and just buys a whole box. There are skittles for each type of box... laptops, desktops, etc...

Only enthusiasts know there are several iterations of the same flavor. :p
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#8
HisDivineOrder
If they don't have an octacore next year in the mainstream, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed waiters. Because most of the smart guys are just waiting for that and if that doesn't come...

...madness will ensue.
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#9
GenericAMDFan
HisDivineOrderIf they don't have an octacore next year in the mainstream, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed waiters. Because most of the smart guys are just waiting for that and if that doesn't come...

...madness will ensue.
not really they will simply buy AMD instead. I myself was waiting for a 8 core part from Intel but since you can only get expensive Skylake-X ones I guess I will go with AMD for this round.
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#10
Gmr_Chick
HisDivineOrderIf they don't have an octacore next year in the mainstream, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed waiters. Because most of the smart guys are just waiting for that and if that doesn't come...

...madness will ensue.
GenericAMDFannot really they will simply buy AMD instead. I myself was waiting for a 8 core part from Intel but since you can only get expensive Skylake-X ones I guess I will go with AMD for this round.
I tend to agreed with GenericAMDFan --people will just end up buying AMD should Intel not have a "mainstream" 8 core CPU within the next 6 months to a year. And not everybody wants to spend crazy amounts of cash (i.e. Skylake X CPUs; KBL-X shouldn't even be considered a viable option at this point) to be able to have an 8 core CPU, and so far, options on that front are few: either pony up for a Skylake-X or save a bit of cash and get a Ryzen 1700.
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#11
Vya Domus
Gmr_Chickor save a bit of cash and get a Ryzen 1700.
Or wait 2 months and maybe get a higher clocked octa-core from AMD.
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#12
evernessince
Too many processors in too small a time. Why buy an Intel processor when they keep releasing iterations that will beat last month's when you can just wait?
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#13
Vlada011
I'm curious about one thing.
New socket, or LGA2066?
If they launch new socket they hurry up to much, only 18 months for LGA2066.
I will not upgrade platform before 2020.
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#14
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
HisDivineOrderIf they don't have an octacore next year in the mainstream, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed waiters. Because most of the smart guys are just waiting for that and if that doesn't come...

...madness will ensue.
Why would mainstream users need eight cores? Serious question. The six cores of intel of late are doing just fine in just about everything. It's an epeen thing IMO.
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#15
EarthDog
HisDivineOrderIf they don't have an octacore next year in the mainstream, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed waiters. Because most of the smart guys are just waiting for that and if that doesn't come...

...madness will ensue.
i disagree. I highly doubt anyone is waiting for an octo on the mainstream platform. And if they are they need it for REAL reason or are a misinformed soul. There isnt a point, really. Quite frankly, now, if i was building a mainstream gamer to last several years, i wouldnt go over a hex core. It simply wont be needed by the time a typical upgrade cycle (3-5 years) completes.

AMD threw the concept of more cores out like its actually needed now or in the near future, like Intel did with the q6600 a decade ago. Im not saying get amd or intel, but just think for a second what is actually needed before making a purchase. An octo in the mainstream is truly a joke today. Maybe in 4 years...
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#16
Gmr_Chick
Realistically, for what I use my computer for, I could probably run a quad core and still be OK in gaming and what have you, but I decided to go for the Ryzen 5 1600 because I dabble in GIMP and 3D image programs; hexa core is where I'd draw the line as far as core count is concerned. I figure if anyone needs more than 6, then they are either doing something that requires them (ala workstation use) or they want as many e-peen points as possible (like using a Threadripper or Intel X series for just gaming lol) :D
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