And pricing aside, I'm wondering how many of the people saying "it better have 50% more performance." Do you even need that much power? I play on a 4K TV at time so I could use the extra power at times but normally I play on 2560x1440 which a 1080ti handles well.

Th3pwn3rAnd pricing aside, I'm wondering how many of the people saying "it better have 50% more performance." Do you even need that much power? I play on a 4K TV at time so I could use the extra power at times but normally I play on 2560x1440 which a 1080ti handles well.

People will moan, it's in their nature. Everyone wants more performance as well as more realism. The reality is they want both but they wear brand coloured blinkers, so despite the fact this tech is the best around, they play it down, it's sad really. And yes the GTX 1080 Ti is great, 30% better still... also sad.

Don't forget about those interested in high refresh 4K displays.

So...how does one define a JeegaRay?? 6, 8, 10 ... How do those perform??

Ouch.

Nvidia Allegedly Terminates Sponsorship for Stance Against Preordering Hardware

An Indian streamer was dropped by Nvidia India and their streamer program because a guest on his podcast said “do not pre order the RTX series just yet.” His guest never even asked anybody to not buy the cards, just said that you should not preorder them yet.

Toms Hardware wrote what I consider to be a ridiculous article about not waiting and just going ahead and buying.

I'm not fond of NV but on the other had I've always had a NV video card :). Just like somebody here said. I can afford the card but paying so much for it? I'd rather skip this. Besides I've bought 4k display for Vega and as you already know it's not that great. Anyway I won't pay that much since it's just a video card. NV should be going for sales numbers not price numbers. That's just my thought but i know there's people that will buy it anyway.

TheOneDon't forget about those interested in high refresh 4K displays.

What's the highest refresh rate on a TV right now? I think I saw 120hz, I don't think there are real 240hz 4k displays that are worth it. Are you you talking about 4K monitors? Most have higher response times and if you're really gaming at a desk 24" seems to be the sweet spot.

Th3pwn3rWhat's the highest refresh rate on a TV right now? I think I saw 120hz, I don't think there are real 240hz 4k displays that are worth it. Are you you talking about 4K monitors? Most have higher response times and if you're really gaming at a desk 24" seems to be the sweet spot.

Specifically I meant those new $2000 27in 4K 120(144)Hz HDR monitors, then there are also those BFGD monitors, which are supposed to be 120Hz, that might come out next year.

TheOneSpecifically I meant those new $2000 27in 4K 120(144)Hz HDR monitors, then there are also those BFGD monitors, which are supposed to be 120Hz, that might come out next year.

And most of us would have to take out a second mortgage to afford any of that. Who is nVidia trying to reach with these products?

Th3pwn3rWhat's the highest refresh rate on a TV right now? I think I saw 120hz, I don't think there are real 240hz 4k displays that are worth it. Are you you talking about 4K monitors? Most have higher response times and if you're really gaming at a desk 24" seems to be the sweet spot.

I'd be surprised if any TVs go higher than 120. You don't exactly need much, if you're gaming 8-10 feet away. Even 60 is tolerable.. atm people aren't going to have more than that at 4K.

Still, back to this GPU: It seems kind of a joke.

hatAnd most of us would have to take out a second mortgage to afford any of that. Who is nVidia trying to reach with these products?

I'm actually surprised by the number of reviews on Newegg for those 27in monitors.

dalekdukesboyAgree with it all. I know and agree and almost mentioned the price non-linear scaling when dealing with performance on top tier cards etc you're absolutely right. But, that being said like you I do look at the linear scaling of dough and it's pointless to buy a brand new card for over a grand, that's absurd. Sure, like Apple (who I hate btw) fools and their money will soon be parted, but for the rest of us, we get best we can get for value and don't just spend max to get max with no budget in mind.

Well, if you mentioned Apple (my home is also iDevice free ;) ), here's the thing. I'm a tinkerer and like to configure stuff and know my devices inside out. So Apple doesn't qualify as a purchase even before factoring price in. But not all people are like that. In fact, I'm in a minority. If you had an above average paying job and you needed a device that just works, you'd probably have iPhones at the top of your list (then there's always the economy lesson that asks "does it make sense for Michael Jordan to pay $100,000 to have his lawn mowed?").
Video cards are a little different (if you're not into tech, you probably don't need a high-end one), but it's not inconceivable that cards that make no sense for me and you, make some sense to other guys. It's what Nvidia seems to think, ever since they got Titan out the door, and since the stuff is selling, it seems they're not entirely wrong.

What makes this so annoying is that we're actually paying attention to the trend, but we can't do anything about it. There are some that think spewing hate over forums threads will make a difference, but really, who are we kidding?

hatAnd most of us would have to take out a second mortgage to afford any of that. Who is nVidia trying to reach with these products?

At least the 65" displays aren't artificially limited by their connectors. When I found out that the 27" 4K HDR displays were bandwidth limited I lost what little interest I had.

Prince ValiantAt least the 65" displays aren't artificially limited by their connectors. When I found out that the 27" 4K HDR displays were bandwidth limited I lost what little interest I had.

Large displays generally have slow response times and refresh rates are good for gaming. Which...you probably want something good for gaming if your buying one of these cards.

Prince ValiantAt least the 65" displays aren't artificially limited by their connectors. When I found out that the 27" 4K HDR displays were bandwidth limited I lost what little interest I had.

I actually didnt mind the bandwidth, and found it funny even how many sites were putting out silly articles about it. It was known months before it launched and yet they were acting as if bandwidth was something that had just been invented! Anyway, the full fat at 98hz, or 120hz as appropriate would have been fine for me. I had been waiting for what seemed like forever for them to launch, even buying a stop gap 4K display last year thanks to them being delayed - again.

Once they landed tho, I was struggling with the 27inch (I really dont want to drop under 30). But the real killer was the haloing, despite watching as many reviews on the thing as I could find, and most saying it really wasnt that bad in person, I could see it in more places than just the full black screen with a white cursor or text. One article that really played it down had a screen grab just showing the OSD and it was incredibly visible there. Oh and active cooling.

The waiting continues... hoping to see a larger mini LED variant.

swirl09The waiting continues... hoping to see a larger mini LED variant.

MicroLED today is struggling to scale down. The screens Samsung was showing in last events has LED/pixel size of almost a mm. OLED will get here sooner, but not soon enough.

Th3pwn3rLarge displays generally have slow response times and refresh rates are good for gaming. Which...you probably want something good for gaming if you're buying one of these cards.

I wouldn't want a 65" display for PC use outside of maybe flight sim use. I appreciate that they aren't making a bizarre decision to limit performance when they're going to charge a premium.

swirl09I actually didnt mind the bandwidth, and found it funny even how many sites were putting out silly articles about it. It was known months before it launched and yet they were acting as if bandwidth was something that had just been invented! Anyway, the full fat at 98hz, or 120hz as appropriate would have been fine for me. I had been waiting for what seemed like forever for them to launch, even buying a stop gap 4K display last year thanks to them being delayed - again.

Once they landed tho, I was struggling with the 27inch (I really dont want to drop under 30). But the real killer was the haloing, despite watching as many reviews on the thing as I could find, and most saying it really wasnt that bad in person, I could see it in more places than just the full black screen with a white cursor or text. One article that really played it down had a screen grab just showing the OSD and it was incredibly visible there. Oh and active cooling.

The waiting continues... hoping to see a larger mini LED variant.

I could live with those refresh rates, I don't find 120 -> 144 noticeable, but using HDMI 2.1 solves the problem. Unless it seriously hurt their margins I don't get why they didn't opt for HDMI 2.1. The other problems only cemented me against it. I laughed aloud when I found out it was actively cooled.

I'm hoping to see a high refresh 2560x1440 miniLED sometime next year (also that miniLED displays won't cost an arm and a leg). MiniLED sounds like it has the potential to be a nice step between now and whenever microLED gets pushed out the door.

Prince ValiantI wouldn't want a 65" display for PC use outside of maybe flight sim use. I appreciate that they aren't making a bizarre decision to limit performance when they're going to charge a premium.

I'm almost exclusively that way myself. Tbh/TMI, sitting in a chair hurts my ass. Never again! Longterm at least. But I do prefer gaming on a smaller display when it comes to strategy.