Monday, September 24th 2018

Linux Community Hit by the Blight of Social Justice Warfare, A Great Purge is Coming

Through the 1990s, Microsoft had become a super-corporation threatening to monopolize all of computing. A band of talented developers got together with lawyers that could fish out loopholes in proprietary licenses, and with some generosity from big software, Linux grew from a scrappy Unix-like OS kernel to the preeminent operating system for enterprises at first, and handheld consumer electronics later. Today it's most popular operating system on the planet. Like every big organization, the Linux Foundation is hit by employee-activism.

Employee-activism is the new unionism. Whereas trade-unions of the old fought for tangible bread-and-butter issues affecting blue-collar folk of the early Industrial era, today's employee-activist is an intellectual predator seeking to maximize their organizational footprint on the backs of other people echoing their political ideas, often through blatant insubordination and disregard for the chain of command. Survival of the fittest has changed to "survival of the loudest." From forcing Linus Torvalds to apologize for speaking his mind in public, to coming up with a new Code of Conduct document, social-justice activism within the Linux Foundation threatens to devolve the culture of meritocracy to a toxic "safe space" prioritizing inclusion of identity rather than skill, as HardOCP comments. A major blow-back from the meritocrats is taking shape.

In a major revision to the license, software developers contributing to the Linux kernel source-code will soon be able to withdraw their contribution, if they are ever cornered by the rest of the community over perceived code-of-conduct violation (i.e. not pandering to identity politics or speaking their minds like Torvalds does). This is big, as many of the older generations of contributors who have made critical contributions without with Linux cannot function, now have a legal recourse, and could reduce the amount of political activism within the community.

Since 2015, identity politicians have been trying to force the Linux Foundation to join the Contributor Covenant, a special Code-of-Conduct agreement that seeks to change the "the predominantly white, straight, and male face of programming." On September 16, the Foundation agreed to implement CC Code of Conduct. Shortly following that, groups of pro-CC developers went on a character-assassination spree of top Linux developers by amplifying and often distorting, their political views (which are irrelevant to the task of programming).
Sources: Lulz, HardOCP
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653 Comments on Linux Community Hit by the Blight of Social Justice Warfare, A Great Purge is Coming

#401
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Which wraps right back into that video: lack of psychological/sociological resistance training, especially on campuses.
Normal response: Oh, sorry! I didn't realize I messed up that bad. I'll try to fix it.
SJW response: YOU HATE MY CODE BECAUSE I'M A THEY! (identity-based retaliation because of insecurity)

Kind of defines the type: always quick to throw the minority card especially when it is irrelevant.

Even if people lash out inappropriately, it is appropriate to state that they did and ask why. This is the first step to reaching an understanding.
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#402
R-T-B
What doesn’t kill you makes you weaker; always trust your feelings; and life is a battle between good people and evil people.
My college (Which is widely considered the most liberal in America, Evergreen State) taught the opposite. I'm unsure where you got the idea any properly functioning educattional "SJW" institution believes any of this, and challenge it on it's very foundations.

At most, they taught something along the lines of "opression produces angry people," which is probably true. The other two they made an active point to debunk.
lexluthermiesterThis. Linus doesn't generally open his mouth unless he's got something to say and knows was he's talking about. Bringing glaring problems to light sometimes needs negative response to spotlight the seriousness of the problem.
Like his "Fuck you, NVIDIA!" speech complete with dual middle fingers, over NVIDIA not open sourcing their driver stack?
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#403
StrayKAT
R-T-BMy college (Which is widely considered the most liberal in America, Evergreen State) taught the opposite. I'm unsure where you got the idea any properly functioning educattional "SJW" institution believes any of this, and challenge it on it's very foundations.

At most, they taught something along the lines of "opression produces angry people," which is probably true. The other two they made an active point to debunk.



Like his "Fuck you, NVIDIA!" speech complete with dual middle fingers, over NVIDIA not open sourcing their driver stack?
It's funny... I used to be interested in Jungian archetypes (or the simplified version people know it by... MBTI). I AM a "feeling" type... but always felt a bit guilty relying on it. I made an effort to hone more Left brain/critical thinking. But I did this on my own. You'd think college is the perfect place to do this - but I guess not.

edit: Whoa.. you went to Evergreen.

Seriously.. is this the same college?

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#404
R-T-B
StrayKATIt's funny... I used to be interested in Jungian archetypes (or the simplified version people know it by... MBTI). I AM a "feeling" type... but always felt a bit guilty relying on it. I made an effort to hone more Left brain/critical thinking. But I did this on my own. You'd think college is the perfect place to do this - but I guess not.

edit: Whoa.. you went to Evergreen.

Seriously.. is this the same college?

Yep. Don't confuse the wacky student body with the curriculum though. There is a very vocal communist/anarchist group there that they don't kick out but that does a ton of noise, and has no say so in policy. Some of them aren't even students, ironically. Most of the actual people who make it to graduation laugh at them (Ironically, I did not, but I still laugh).

Likewise, there is a vocal conservative group that likes to show us dead fetuses and tell us we are all going to hell every day on the way into class.

It's an interesting place. Granted I went before the contraversey perpetuated in that video, but same place I imagine.

Go geoducks go...

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#405
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
TL;DW version (beware of language):
Model school, no doubt, for "Setting Up a Generation for Failure"


Of course the academics are largely divorced from the social environment of the institution. Thing is, and what the book/video stress, is that the divorce needs to end. Kids are coming into these schools wholly unprepared to deal with the real world. Colleges need to step up to counter it. If they don't (which none are right now), their students take these fringe ideas to the workplace and suddenly it becomes the employer's problem. What can the employer reasonably do? Not much because of anti-discrimination law. Employers are forced to bend over backwards for these people. *cough*Linux Foundation*cough*
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#406
StrayKAT
R-T-BYep. Don't confuse the wacky student body with the curriculum though. There is a very vocal communist/anarchist group there that they don't kick out but that does a ton of noise, and has no say so in policy. Some of them aren't even students, ironically. Most of the actual people who make it to graduation laugh at them (Ironically, I did not, but I still laugh).

Likewise, there is a vocal conservative group that likes to show us dead fetuses and tell us we are all going to hell every day on the way into class.

It's an interesting place. Granted I went before the contraversey perpetuated in that video, but same place I imagine.

Go geoducks go...

Heh. I had no idea about that mascot. Had to Google it. My dad was from Seattle and I went there a few times.. never even heard of a geoduck. :)
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#407
R-T-B
FordGT90ConceptModel school, no doubt, for "Setting Up a Generation for Failure"
It actually has pretty damn good performance metrics in terms of graduate success. Don't let that stop you though.
FordGT90Conceptsocial environment of the institution.
No, they are very aware it's just a vocal few who stand in red square. Evergreen's' Red square is like fight club for political nutjobs. And it's also where next to all these videos are from, Red Square or the buildings around it. Partially because non-students are allowed there, so everyone uses it, including crazy external groups.

As for your video, I refuse to watch anything with Grimace in it. Old rule sorry... but that's possible the most disturbing thing ever to come out of McDonalds.
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#408
StrayKAT
R-T-BIt actually has pretty damn good performance metrics in terms of graduate success. Don't let that stop you though.



No, they are very aware it's just a vocal few who stand in red square. Evergreen's' Red square is like fight club for political nutjobs. And it's also where next to all these videos are from, Red Square or the buildings around it. Partially because non-students are allowed there, so everyone uses it, including crazy external groups.
Whatever their academic record, their attendance has dropped dramatically. Get woke, go broke.

www.theolympian.com/opinion/editorials/article212226769.html
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#409
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
R-T-BNo, they are very aware it's just a vocal few who stand in red square. Evergreen's' Red square is like fight club for political nutjobs. And it's also where next to all these videos are from, Red Square or the buildings around it. Partially because non-students are allowed there, so everyone uses it, including crazy external groups.
I edited.

Yes, it's a minority but that minority is growing every year because of the quality (or lack thereof) of students coming in keeps declining. The iPhone debuted in 2007--11 years ago. The generation that was born with a phone in their hand hasn't reached college age yet. We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg now.
R-T-BAs for your video, I refuse to watch anything with Grimace in it. Old rule sorry... but that's possible the most disturbing thing ever to come out of McDonalds.
It's a joke that only appears once towards the end of it. TL;DW: the school promoted segregation and the events hosted during the segregation were...well...basically the list in the preamble of the new Code of Conduct.
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#410
R-T-B
StrayKATWhatever their academic record, their attendance has dropped dramatically. Get woke, go broke.

www.theolympian.com/opinion/editorials/article212226769.html
My attendance is from 2010-2012ish. Things have gone downhill since then I heard, so you are possibly more on target than I want to admit. Just going on memory. The fact that they do not kick people off campus until they do something violent (even screaming doesn't count) has led to uncomfortable walks to class. Heck, it was uncomfortable when I was there with the freaky anti-abortion "YOU ARE KILLING CHILDREN" types, complete with very graphic posters and a tendency to spit if you looked at them wrong. Unfortunately, it's an example of why extreme freedom of speech can lead to extremely afraid people.
FordGT90ConceptThe iPhone debuted in 2007--11 years ago. The generation that grew was born with a phone in their hand hasn't reached college age yet.
I'm unusre how that has anythngto do with what we are arguing, but yeah, overly young access to electronics is probably a bad thing?
FordGT90ConceptIt's a joke that only appears once towards the end of it. TL;DW: the school promoted segregation and the events hosted during the segregation were...well...basically the list in the preamble of the new Code of Conduct.
Oh yeah, that professor moron who went on Fox News and basically stirred up a shit storm over the Day of Abscence.

The "Day of Absence" was a longstanding evergreen tradation, a day designed to show what the world would be like without a certain group. Used to just be minorities, one day some clever PR person thought it'd be interesting to invert it and do it for white people. It was designed to highlight how bad the world would be without the missing group. Obviously it backfired completely and frankly, the whole idea was always rather silly. It needed to die long ago in my view but was really a harmless thing blown out of proportion.

It was also optional, and no classwork was to be assigned that day IIRC.
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#411
StrayKAT
R-T-BMy attendance is from 2012ish. Things have gone downhill since then I heard, so you are possibly more on target than I want to admit. Just going on memory. The fact that they do not kick people off campus has led to uncomfortable walks to class. Heck, it was uncomfortable when I was there with the freaky anti-abortion "YOU ARE KILLING CHILDREN" types, complete with very graphic posters and a tendency to spit if you looked at them wrong.
Did you simply go to college late or are you really that young? Just curious.. I'm an old fart, I hate to admit. I never finished college, but technically would have before 2000 if I stayed.

That they made a target out of "Bret Weinstein" is telling (the professor they attacked the most in some vids.. for saying segregation was a bad idea). He's a Leftist himself.. of the hippy variety. Yet it shows how close to the edge they've gone, when a Leftist, Jewish hippy professor is the "oppressive white patriarchy" to these students.

Here he is being interviewed by David Rubin.. another supposed "Nazi" now. Even though he's a gay Jewish guy who used to work at the Young Turks.

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#412
R-T-B
StrayKATDid you simply go to college late or are you really that young?
I'm 31. I had trouble securing funding for college so it was 2 years at a community college (South Puget Sound Community College) followed by two years at evergreen (which I may SOME DAY finish if the money fairy visists me, but probably not). These years were fairly far apart as I could pay.

I refuse to take out a student loan. Not a type to be indebted to that level.
StrayKATThat they made a target out of "Bret Weinstein" is telling (the professor they attacked the most in some vids.. for saying segregation was a bad idea). He's a Leftist himself.. of the hippy variety. Yet it shows how close to the edge they've gone, when a Leftist, Jewish hippy professor is the "oppressive white patriarchy" to these students.
As much as I hate Bret, because he DID stir up a shitstorm for no good reason and deserved his consqeuences IMO, what they did to smearmonger him was fucking unfair. He's about as much a nazi as I am a hippopotamus.
StrayKATfor saying segregation was a bad idea
It wasn't really segeregation, it was a badly planned purely optional event based in a longstanding college tradition that the media got wind of via Bret and blew up like a hydrogen bomb. It was actually designed to recognize and praise the group being asked to leave.

Ironic to a degree it was never an issue when the various minority groups left campus, which went on for almost a decade (at least?)

PS: My chief reason for not going back is... complicated. The professor I was last studying with and really engaged with, whom I can only remember as "Rob" now (it's been a while) died of brain cancer (second bout with it, no less. Tough dude). He taught a Russia and Eurasia history program. Unfortunately I can't find him now as his last name escapes memory and he is no longer in the staff directory well, being dead.
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#413
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
R-T-BMy attendance is from 2010-2012ish.
Shows how much worse it has gotten in just 5 years. What's it going to be like in another 5? I perish the thought. It's also not isolated to that campus. It's almost everywhere in the USA.
R-T-BI'm unusre how that has anythngto do with what we are arguing, but yeah, overly young access to electronics is probably a bad thing?
Fundamentally, yes. Details are in the "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure" book/video. TL;DW: because they mostly socialize via digital platforms, they don't know how to handle communication in the real world. It's massively contributing to the SJW behavior in high school and college.
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#414
StrayKAT
R-T-BI'm 31. I had trouble securing funding for college so it was 2 years at a community college (South Puget Sound Community College) followed by two years at evergreen (which I may SOME DAY finish if the money fairy visists me, but probably not). These years were fairly far apart as I could pay.

I refuse to take out a student loan. Not a type to be indebted to that level.



As much as I hate Bret, because he DID stir up a shitstorm for no good reason and deserved his consqeuences IMO, what they did to smearmonger him was fucking unfair. He's about as much a nazi as I am a hippopotamus.



It wasn't really segeregation, it was a badly planned purely optional event based in a longstanding college tradition that the media got wind of via Bret and blew up like a hydrogen bomb. It was actually designed to recognize and praise the group being asked to leave.

Ironic to a degree it was never an issue when the various minority groups left campus, which went on for almost a decade (at least?)
Well, listening to that vid again, indeed, it does sound like it was deliberate, since he's been thinking about these issues well before this happened... and professors like him didn't have a voice with the faculty no longer. So he did the next best thing and got the media involved. I can't blame him for his shrewdness here. He deserved a voice either way. He speaks for many more professors, who often are afraid or get roasted for saying just a little.
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#415
R-T-B
FordGT90ConceptShows how much worse it has gotten in just 5 years. What's it going to be like in another 5? I perish the thought. It's also not isolated to that campus. It's almost everywhere in the USA.
It speaks to what a climate of anger produces I think, more than anything. This goes for both sides.
FordGT90ConceptIt's massively contributing to the SJW behavior in high school and college.
Maybe. Maybe not. You have me. :p

And I'd still argue a lot of the principles aren't wrong.
StrayKATWell, listening to that vid again, indeed, it does sound like it was deliberate, since he's been thinking about these issues well before this happened... and professors like him didn't have a voice with the faculty no longer. So he did the next best thing and got the media involved. I can't blame him for his shrewdness here. He deserved a voice either way.
He does. But you have to understand. At evergreen, going to fox news is about the same as going to make a message for ISIS. He was trying to stir up shit just by that alone. There is no way another media outlet wouldn't have taken that story, especially the way he spun it. He went for the most proactive one. This to me, speaks miles to his intentions.
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#416
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
R-T-BLike his "Fuck you, NVIDIA!" speech complete with dual middle fingers, over NVIDIA not open sourcing their driver stack?
That was in response to a question from a student regarding Optimus. Linus' response was, "nVidia has been the single most problematic company they've had to deal with," and that they're "the exception, not the rule." It goes a bit further beyond not having open source drivers.
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#417
GoldenX
USA members, you realise the sh*tstorm this is turning to be in your country, right? From outside, it looks so stupid, it's barely believable.
Also, third world country with free health and education, f*ck yeah.
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#418
StrayKAT
GoldenXUSA members, you realise the sh*tstorm this is turning to be in your country, right? From outside, it looks so stupid, it's barely believable.
Also, third world country with free health and education, f*ck yeah.
Oh, I do. Because I love history and try to learn from it. But a lot don't... they love reinventing the wheel instead (and rolling off the cliff).

edit: Free Healthcare is something I'd get behind though if Americans were as healthy as Europeans.

Which isn't happening, of course.
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#419
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
GoldenXUSA members, you realise the sh*tstorm this is turning to be in your country, right? From outside, it looks so stupid, it's barely believable.
Also, third world country with free health and education, f*ck yeah.
You say that like we're not aware of it.
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#420
R-T-B
AquinusThat was in response to a question from a student regarding Optimus. Linus' response was, "nVidia has been the single most problematic company they've had to deal with," and that they're "the exception, not the rule." It goes a bit further beyond not having open source drivers.
Ah thanks for the reminder. It's been a while.
GoldenXUSA members, you realise the sh*tstorm this is turning to be in your country, right? From outside, it looks so stupid, it's barely believable.
Having studied Russia and such, I'd argue Russia (or Putin, rather) is very much looking to weaken us through a social campaign designed to divide us along ideological lines. They look at it like "you can only eat a whale one bite at a time." That's why they wanted Trump to win, regardless of "collusion" (let's assume even there was none) he was still the best man to stir the pot. They want us to be "brother against brother" and they'll root for anyone who can stir those party lines. And Trump? Just look at his twitter feed. It's all he does.

But then that'd be political.
AquinusYou say that like we're not aware of it.
I'm totally aware of it. Sometimes it's pretty big on my worry list, truth be told. But... I hope for things to get better. We can't be this gullible, I hope.
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#421
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
R-T-BAnd I'd still argue a lot of the principles aren't wrong.
...but they're taken to the extreme.

Paraphrasing from that linked Bret Weinstein video: equality of opportunity (doable) cannot be confused with equality of result (so many factors at play).
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#422
StrayKAT
R-T-BAnd Trump? Just look at his twitter feed. It's all he does.
There's more to his Twitter than that. He says the truth sometimes that the media would rather you forget. Right now they're putting Senator Richard Blumenthal on a pedestal, as some bastion of honor and accountability.

But he's a liar. He lied about his service in Vietnam. How can you trust someone who makes this big of a public lie?

www.snopes.com/fact-check/richard-blumenthal-vietnam/

The "media cycle" in America gets very bored easily and "forgets" a lot of things.. and hopes you forget too. Trump OTOH is a master of media manipulation and branding - he STAYS in the news on purpose. He got over a billion dollars in free advertising during the Presidential campaign, just because he knew how to constantly stay in the news (for better or worse). Don't think it wasn't intentional. He's been doing it since I was a little kid. And as far as Twitter goes, it's good to have some supposed "madman" on Twitter with 50 million followers just to remind you of another side to the story.

As distasteful as he is, I think he's the perfect guy for the job at this moment in time. He self-funded his own campaign and isn't beholden to anyone, and knows how to use the media. People have been wanting an outsider for a long time -- and this is it. Ugly as it is, this is it. You won't get better.
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#423
R-T-B
FordGT90Concept...but they're taken to the extreme.
No arguement. Extremism is pretty much always a problem, short of a very few historical exceptions... which were even then probably a problem for their parent nations. I'm sure the 18th century British had a rather different view of George Washington, for example.
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#424
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
StrayKATRight now the media is putting Senator Richard Blumenthal on a pedestal, as some bastion of honor and accountability.
It's Flake that needs to be on the pedestal. He single-handedly got an FBI investigation and delayed the vote a week because he was the deciding vote to proceed. Flake's a Republican from Arizona. This is his last term because one-term was apparently enough for him. That's off-topic though.


I do think the meat of the topic has been discussed in full. The ball is in the Linux Foundation's court.
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#425
R-T-B
StrayKATHe says the truth sometimes
I like more than sometimes. I like to at least break 50%.

But regardless, my point was his twitter feed is intentionally divisive and very "us vs them." There really is no denying that.
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