Monday, September 24th 2018

Linux Community Hit by the Blight of Social Justice Warfare, A Great Purge is Coming

Through the 1990s, Microsoft had become a super-corporation threatening to monopolize all of computing. A band of talented developers got together with lawyers that could fish out loopholes in proprietary licenses, and with some generosity from big software, Linux grew from a scrappy Unix-like OS kernel to the preeminent operating system for enterprises at first, and handheld consumer electronics later. Today it's most popular operating system on the planet. Like every big organization, the Linux Foundation is hit by employee-activism.

Employee-activism is the new unionism. Whereas trade-unions of the old fought for tangible bread-and-butter issues affecting blue-collar folk of the early Industrial era, today's employee-activist is an intellectual predator seeking to maximize their organizational footprint on the backs of other people echoing their political ideas, often through blatant insubordination and disregard for the chain of command. Survival of the fittest has changed to "survival of the loudest." From forcing Linus Torvalds to apologize for speaking his mind in public, to coming up with a new Code of Conduct document, social-justice activism within the Linux Foundation threatens to devolve the culture of meritocracy to a toxic "safe space" prioritizing inclusion of identity rather than skill, as HardOCP comments. A major blow-back from the meritocrats is taking shape.

In a major revision to the license, software developers contributing to the Linux kernel source-code will soon be able to withdraw their contribution, if they are ever cornered by the rest of the community over perceived code-of-conduct violation (i.e. not pandering to identity politics or speaking their minds like Torvalds does). This is big, as many of the older generations of contributors who have made critical contributions without with Linux cannot function, now have a legal recourse, and could reduce the amount of political activism within the community.

Since 2015, identity politicians have been trying to force the Linux Foundation to join the Contributor Covenant, a special Code-of-Conduct agreement that seeks to change the "the predominantly white, straight, and male face of programming." On September 16, the Foundation agreed to implement CC Code of Conduct. Shortly following that, groups of pro-CC developers went on a character-assassination spree of top Linux developers by amplifying and often distorting, their political views (which are irrelevant to the task of programming).
Sources: Lulz, HardOCP
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653 Comments on Linux Community Hit by the Blight of Social Justice Warfare, A Great Purge is Coming

#176
StrayKAT
trparkyI'm talking about the Mexico refugee situation. We may not necessarily want them here in the US but they are still fellow human beings and they deserve just as much respect as you and I. These people are seeking asylum from some really shitty situations and then when they come here they get treated as if they're less than human. Children, some as young as six or eight years old, are being separated from their parents and some are even being abused by the very people who are working in border patrol and immigration enforcement. That's some seriously messed up shit there.
They deserve respect as humans, but that doesn't mean you give them all of the rights of citizens. Those aren't the same things. Unless... you want to change that? But that's going to take more laws than what a mere president capable of. He's just enacting what laws are there. Even things like the seperation of families all happened before too.. even under Obama. The only thing that's new is the outrage. It's just more of the media manipulation I'm talking about.

Here's a good dose of media manipulation that truly sums up the kind of mindgames these people play (and it's reported from the Leftist Jimmy Dore I mentioned earlier). It shows just how far they'll go... even with nuclear war at stake.




P.S. Back to immigration. I'm a child of an immigrant myself. Except my mom did it legally... then worked worked tirelessly, learned English, got a GED, and became a small business owner. Don't mistake me as being indifferent or anything. I'm proud of her for this.
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#177
trparky
StrayKATbut that doesn't mean you give them all of the rights of citizens.
Nor should they, they're not citizens. However, to treat them like common filth is just a new level of wrong.
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#178
DRDNA
whether it be religion, politics or the defense of the innocent and even speaking against propaganda in the name of truth, I will speak my mind and I will also convey my opinion and will go as far to even state the truth! I dont give a damn who tells me otherwise as that goes into my deaf ear for disposal into the trash bin. I will agree not to bring it up BUT i will stand in defense of the truth whether that means being attacked or given infractions or perma bands or threats from manufactures. I will try to take the higher path but will not allow crapola info with out the rebuttal of my Two cents! Not only here on the internets but in real life too ;):peace:;) I would also like to add there is also a lot of big time crapola in this thread that doesn't even deserve a rebuttal to so instead of commenting i will sit here a laugh at the crapola that people actually believe in this thread.
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#179
R-T-B
DRDNAwhether it be religion, politics or the defense of the innocent and even speaking against propaganda in the name of truth, I will speak my mind and I will also convey my opinion and will go as far to even state the truth! I dont give a damn who tells me otherwise as that goes into my deaf ear for disposal into the trash bin. I will agree not to bring it up BUT i will stand in defense of the truth whether that means being attacked or given infractions or perma bands or threats from manufactures. I will try to take the higher path but will not allow crapola info with out the rebuttal of my Two cents! Not only here on the internets but in real life too ;):peace:;) I would also like to add there is also a lot of big time crapola in this thread that doesn't even deserve a rebuttal to so instead of commenting i will sit here a laugh at the crapola that people actually believe in this thread.
I have a feeling "the truth" is basically your opinion in this case, judging from this comment. All good, makes it easier if I know that fact.
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#180
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
$ReaPeR$I think this says a lot about human stupidity. so, it's better to be inclusive than giving the job to someone that is the best at it. the cancer is real. :)
Inclusion voted/shared heavily by Mastodon closet-dwellers.
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#181
Solidstate89
btarunrInclusion voted/shared heavily by Mastodon closet-dwellers.
You sound mad. Facts don't care about your feelings buddy.
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#182
hat
Enthusiast
$ReaPeR$I think this says a lot about human stupidity. so, it's better to be inclusive than giving the job to someone that is the best at it. the cancer is real. :)
btarunrInclusion voted/shared heavily by Mastodon closet-dwellers.
I don't even know what we're talking about at this point...
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#183
StrayKAT
hatI don't even know what we're talking about at this point...
Mastodon, the band.. ? :confused:
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#184
windwhirl
I don't think we should give Torvalds (or anyone else, for that matter) a free pass to insult someone or do something unprofessional. But banning contributors for whatever reason that has nothing to do with work (let's call it that), I don't get it. The whole thing about cis white males discriminating, excluding or harassing anyone else is a problem that far exceeds the boundaries of a software foundation/company/community and falls right into world-wide politics. I also feel like they are making it a bigger problem than it really is. Or maybe I live in a bubble or something...

And finally, aren't most Linux contributors anonymous? How the heck do they even know if most of them are cis white males? Heck, how could they know if they are mostly male, or cis, or white?
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#185
StrayKAT
windwhirlI don't think we should give Torvalds (or anyone else, for that matter) a free pass to insult someone or do something unprofessional. But banning contributors for whatever reason that has nothing to do with work (let's call it that), I don't get it. The whole thing about cis white males discriminating, excluding or harassing anyone else is a problem that far exceeds the boundaries of a software foundation/company/community and falls right into world-wide politics. I also feel like they are making it a bigger problem than it really is. Or maybe I live in a bubble or something...

And finally, aren't most Linux contributors anonymous? How the heck do they even know if most of them are cis white males? Heck, how could they know if they are mostly male, or cis, or white?
Even if they are, lets just take Linus, for example. If he's just supposed to be "representative" of some ethnicity (rather than simply himself). Finns have suffered plenty. Why my country (US) gets all the heroic WW2 movies is beyond me. People should brush up on their history.

How about the random kernel contributor from Poland? What the hell does anyone have on them, in recent history?

Calling them all simply "white" is pretty lame in itself.
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#186
trparky
windwhirlAnd finally, aren't most Linux contributors anonymous?
That's what it's supposed to be. You should be able to contribute based upon what you know, your knowledge, not what or who you are. It shouldn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Mexican, Italian, Polish, German, or green from Mars. It also shouldn't matter if you're a man or a woman. If you got the chops to write code and slog it out with the best of them, then you should have every right to be able to contribute to the Linux kernel. However, if your code either doesn't work correctly or it has more bugs than a roach motel it also shouldn't matter what you are, you and your code should be tossed out on the curb like yesterday's garbage.
StrayKATlets just take Linus
In some ways I think Linus brought about some of this with how he acts. I've read some of his commentary on the Linux mailing list and some of the stuff he's written would make even an old sailor blush what with all of the swear words that he's used. There's putting someone in his/her place and then you have what Linus has done many times. There's a line that decent people know that you shouldn't cross when telling someone that they were wrong, Linus has crossed it many times.
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#187
moproblems99
I don't get the whole gender situation....everybody knows there are 10 types of people in this world....

Edit: Depending on your endian I guess
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#188
StrayKAT
trparkyThat's what it's supposed to be. You should be able to contribute based upon what you know, your knowledge, not what or who you are. It shouldn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Mexican, Italian, Polish, German, or green from Mars. It also shouldn't matter if you're a man or a woman. If you got the chops to write code and slog it out with the best of them, then you should have every right to be able to contribute to the Linux kernel. However, if your code either doesn't work correctly or it has more bugs than a roach motel it also shouldn't matter what you are, you and your code should be tossed out on the curb like yesterday's garbage.


In some ways I think Linus brought about some of this with how he acts. I've read some of his commentary on the Linux mailing list and some of the stuff he's written would make even an old sailor blush what with all of the swear words that he's used. There's putting someone in his/her place and then you have what Linus has done many times. There's a line that decent people know that you shouldn't cross when telling someone that they were wrong, Linus has crossed it many times.
Oh he's definitely..... cantankerous? Someone said simply "asshole" earlier. Maybe that fits better. :D

I was just ranting about "white cis", and trying differentiate nations. Not really important, since I wouldn't want anyone to be held to that. It's kind of ridiculous.
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#189
trparky
StrayKATOh he's definitely..... cantankerous? Someone said simply "asshole" earlier. Maybe that fits better. :D
Oh that's for sure, he can be a real asshole on the mailing list. A person once said that Linus doesn't understand how emotions work and that when he was younger he had his sister translate the world around him. If I had to use a pop culture reference to describe Linus I would use The Big Bang Theory's Sheldon Cooper from the earlier seasons.
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#190
timta2
I'm rather sad to see garbage like this at TPU. I know things have been going downhill for a while, with the forum posts now filled full of trolling, nastiness, hatred, and anger. It's a real turnoff to users who aren't into it, which I'm certain is the majority of us. It's also disappointing to see a TPU Staff Member, who I've previously respected, perpetuating it.

I'm also not surprised this is linked to HardOCP, considering I was banned from their site, a while back, for calling out someone who was being racist towards African-Americans. He was allowed to edit his post, which had been up for hours, so that it was only a little less racist, and a HardOCP staff member banned me after I questioned his support of the racism and the poster being racist. Texas, conservatism, and racism, at it's finest.
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#191
moproblems99
timta2Texas, conservatism, and racism, at it's finest.
Pot. Kettle.
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#192
StrayKAT
timta2I'm rather sad to see garbage like this at TPU. I know things have been going downhill for a while, with the forum posts now filled full of trolling, nastiness, hatred, and anger. It's a real turnoff to users who aren't into it, which I'm certain is the majority of us. It's also disappointing to see a TPU Staff Member, who I've previously respected, perpetuating it.

I'm also not surprised this is linked to HardOCP, considering I was banned from their site, a while back, for calling out someone who was being racist towards African-Americans. He was allowed to edit his post, which had been up for hours, so that it was only a little less racist, and a HardOCP staff member banned me after I questioned his support of the racism and the poster being racist. Texas, conservatism, and racism, at it's finest.
What's wrong with Texas? lol. It's bigger than most countries. You're going to find all kinds of people.

Would it make you feel better that I'm a half-Thai, half Scandi Texan who's got Black, Mexican, Asian, and White friends? And I'm not much different than many here. I've been here most of my life, and while I've had some racist experiences, it's not that common.

edit: I think the most accurate info now is those hurricanes. That's about it. Then you see people in these so called "racist" areas (Texas, Florida, Carolinas) just simply helping each other out. That's real. That's how the actual people are. They're not the subhumans these coastal news organizations usually broadcast out to the country or through their movie stereotypes... getting everyone else all anxious and shit. The sky is falling! The country has gone to hell. Racists! KKK! Nazis in the White House and running on the streets!

I wish people could be a little happier. All they have to do is relax.. and breathe the fresh air. Nothing is as bad as it seems.
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#193
R-T-B
moproblems99I don't get the whole gender situation....everybody knows there are 10 types of people in this world....

Edit: Depending on your endian I guess
Best post.
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#194
hat
Enthusiast
R-T-BBest post.
I don't get that one either. Don't even know what "endian" means. Unless the whole thing is sarcastic...
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#195
StrayKAT
hatI don't get that one either. Don't even know what "endian" means. Unless the whole thing is sarcastic...
I didn't get it either... but I think endian has something to do with file systems..
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#196
R-T-B
hatI don't get that one either. Don't even know what "endian" means. Unless the whole thing is sarcastic...
Programmer joke on the interpretation of a raw binary.
StrayKATI didn't get it either... but I think endian has something to do with file systems..
More order of the most significant digit.

I would explain but it's tough to type out on mobile... Maybe Ford will do the honors if you are lucky.
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#197
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Solidstate89You sound mad. Facts don't care about your feelings buddy.
The news team has access to incoming hits data, including specific URLs.
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#198
amit_talkin
TL;DR , Linux suck anyways. Over 20 years in making and still they cant make it easy to install programs. Cant do $hit without terminal. Its free but people here still opt for Windows because of its easy to use and manage.
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#199
R-T-B
amit_talkinTL;DR , Linux suck anyways. Over 20 years in making and still they cant make it easy to install programs. Cant do $hit without terminal. Its free but people here still opt for Windows because of its easy to use and manage.
And every server in the world runs on Linux...

It's called a use case, and it has one.
btarunrThe news team has access to incoming hits data, including specific URLs.
Ah. Forgive me, but I thought more of my fellow TPU'ers. Should have figured we'd be being brigaded rather than have some semblence of balanced views.

I'm also deeply disturbed by btarunr's "closet dweller" implication, seeing what he meant now it was quite... inappropriate. But I will say no more. This may be it for me.
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#200
amit_talkin
R-T-BAnd every server in the world runs on Linux...

It's called a use case, and it has one.
Sadly, I have a VPS too, running on CentOS and I know the pain managing it.
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