Friday, April 5th 2019

Microsoft Reconsiders: No More Forced Updates in Windows 10

One of the big no-nos for some users looking to upgrade do Windows 10 was the fact that Microsoft enforced constant, 6-month update cycles independent of whether users wanted them or not. This move was done to streamline the update process and keep all users at parity when it comes to important security and feature updates that Microsoft considered relevant. However, it seems Microsoft is now abandoning this practice, which means that users that like to know exactly what is being changed in their systems - and at a time of their convenience - now have one less reason to not upgrade.

Not only will Windows no longer push updates inadvertently, now home users will also have the ability to not only pause updates, but also remove them. There's a caveat, though - you won't be able to postpone feature updates forever. As it stands, Microsoft has an 18 month "end of life" period for major Windows 10 versions, which means that after your 18 months of postponing updates are up (and all of the kinks have been ironed out), you PC will still update to the latest version. There are some other details, which I will transcribe from the Microsoft blog post for your perusal.
Download and install now option provides users a separate control to initiate the installation of a feature update on eligible devices with no known key blocking compatibility issues. Users can still "Check for updates" to get monthly quality and security updates. Windows will automatically initiate a new feature update if the version of Windows 10 is nearing end of support. We may notify you when a feature update is available and ready for your machine. All Windows 10 devices with a supported version will continue to automatically receive the monthly updates. This new "download and install" option will also be available for our most popular versions of Windows 10, versions 1803 and 1809, by late May.

Additional improvements to put users more in control of updates that are being introduced with the May 2019 Update include:
  • Extended ability to pause updates for both feature and monthly updates. This extension ability is for all editions of Windows 10, including Home. Based on user feedback we know that any update can come at an inconvenient time, such as when a PC is needed for a big presentation. So, we're making it possible for all users to pause both feature and monthly updates for up to 35 days (seven days at a time, up to five times). Once the 35-day pause period is reached, users will need to update their device before pausing again.
  • Intelligent active hours to avoid disruptive update restarts. The active hours feature, introduced in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, relies on a manually configured time range to avoid automatically installing updates and rebooting. Many users leave the active hours setting at its 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. default. To further enhance active hours, users will now have the option to let Windows Update intelligently adjust active hours based on their device-specific usage patterns.
  • Improved update orchestration to improve system responsiveness. This feature will improve system performance by intelligently coordinating Windows updates and Microsoft Store updates, so they occur when users are away from their devices to minimize disruptions.
Sources: Microsoft Blog, Reddit
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149 Comments on Microsoft Reconsiders: No More Forced Updates in Windows 10

#26
erocker
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So, a slight tweak to their already horrible system. Nothing has really changed.
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#27
Divide Overflow
Title should be: Microsoft changes timing on forced updates
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#28
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
neatfeatguyFirst time I installed Win 10 I didn't see "My Computer" on the desktop.
Whatever, click on the start button - I don't see it showing up in all the crap that's littered across the start menu.
Fine. In the search bar I type in "my computer" and nothing comes up.....seriously, now. WTF?
Screw it - I just type "c:\" to bring up the window for the c drive.

Later found out it's called "This PC" and no longer "My Computer"

Tell me. What the hell is the point in renaming something after all these years?
Right click on windows icon - file explorer - C drive etc...

Its a change but it's not retrograde.
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#29
Unregistered
I just got a fully working 1809...like last Tuesday at 7pm...
I no longer loose audio devices.
I can go online without my browser freezing up.
I no longer get that "A device has failed to respond" error that caused my GFX to hang.
I no longer have random lockups.
My PC is fast again.
Even the thought of an update makes me vomit in my mouth a little...
I guess this good news for home users.
Problem is is the last time I removed an update it completely fucked the install....so I had to start over anyways...not sure if in the end this will be useful at all.

I have "My Computer" pinned to the taskbar.
Win10 standard.
#30
tvamos
I like w10, and don't mind updates. I took some time getting used to it, but later it was and is smooth sailing. I never created account, and use it as local, no email no nothing personal, all privacy settings off. Also my updates are allways at shutdown, nothing forced.
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#31
Mescalamba
Get Long Term Service Branch and dont give sh*t all year(s) long.

Yea sure, you dont get fancy stuff, but you get Win 10 that actually works.
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#32
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
HTCLinux FTW ...
For the last 3 years I've been using Ubuntu. It works and doesn't randomly brick my machine, so that's a nice perk.
tvamosI like w10, and don't mind updates. I took some time getting used to it, but later it was and is smooth sailing. I never created account, and use it as local, no email no nothing personal, all privacy settings off. Also my updates are allways at shutdown, nothing forced.
Was Windows able to boot afterwards because a primary motivator for me switching to Linux was that two updates had left my machine broken after an update or failed update. So unless I become a .NET developer or something, I'm likely not going to run Windows for the foreseeable future.
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#33
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
moproblems99I don't know about that. They are still allowing 7 and 8 keys to be upgraded to 10. They would also have to enforce the OEM policy which they have never done.
Yeah, and that helps us enthusiasts, but it doesn't really matter to most people.
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#34
Prince Valiant
eidairaman1This title name is misleading...
Very, I was excited and about to check W10 prices until I read the whole post. I don't understand what Microsoft's problem is with offering optional updates and telemetry as an opt-in.
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#35
TheOne
Personally I'm just taken aback by how much Microsoft has changed this year.
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#36
XiGMAKiD
A good move in the right direction, so they can do something right once in a while
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#37
timta2
neatfeatguyFirst time I installed Win 10 I didn't see "My Computer" on the desktop.
Whatever, click on the start button - I don't see it showing up in all the crap that's littered across the start menu.
Fine. In the search bar I type in "my computer" and nothing comes up.....seriously, now. WTF?
Screw it - I just type "c:\" to bring up the window for the c drive.

Later found out it's called "This PC" and no longer "My Computer"

Tell me. What the hell is the point in renaming something after all these years?
Changing the locations and names of things has historically made up a good deal of what's new in each new version of Windows. I remember my girlfriend ranting about it in the Windows XP days and asking the same question you are, here.
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#38
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
timta2Changing the locations and names of things has historically made up a good deal of what's new in each new version of Windows. I remember my girlfriend ranting about it in the Windows XP days and asking the same question you are, here.
It wasn't even called "My Computer" in Windows 7... It's also not on the desktop by default in Windows 7 either.

Seriously, if people would embrace the "Right Click On Start " method, they'd get around a lot better in Windows 10. Heck, now that I'm used to it, I don't even need or really even want OpenShell.
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#39
Bones
I looked at the thread title and was like "Yeah...... Right".

BTW note it says "Reconsidering", not that anything has actually changed yet and I can promise you the means of gathering telemetry will change - They didn't invest all the effort into creating Cortana and such only to abandon it later.

That's what Alexia is for - WELL KNOWN over the years to be spyware yet now it's been touted as the "In" thing to have and use for all your home and smart devices. It's probrably in enough places now they can snoop at will wherever, even in places that doesn't have Alexia directly such as a neighbor with some smart devices but none of the Alexia controlled crap.

Smart devices CAN communicate wirelessly, I mean WHY for example would your refriderator even need web access?
Alot of the newer models are capable right along with other things of a similar nature - Think about how many devices are now bluetooth/wireless capable yet it really doesn't make sense for them to be.... Like the fridge.

Call it what you will and agree or not, personally I'm not buying it guys.
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#40
R-T-B
HD64GSo, the security BS that was supposedly the main reason for this policies isn't as important anymore? :rolleyes::roll::p
Money will always trump security.
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#41
TesterAnon
Yeah, but can we turn forced telemetry off now?
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#42
CrAsHnBuRnXp
The amount of you still crying and favoring Windows 7 still astounds me.
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#43
tvamos
AquinusFor the last 3 years I've been using Ubuntu. It works and doesn't randomly brick my machine, so that's a nice perk.

Was Windows able to boot afterwards because a primary motivator for me switching to Linux was that two updates had left my machine broken after an update or failed update. So unless I become a .NET developer or something, I'm likely not going to run Windows for the foreseeable future.
Never had such problems. I did notice my updates come at a later date, like that update erasing personal files, it never came actually.
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#44
enxo218
will keep using windows 7 till its no longer available on game system requirements (of games I play) or until m$ abandons their saas tripe and takes windows up to 11 because that WILL HAPPEN...I will be waiting for it
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#45
Easo
Before even opening the comments i knew their contents. You people can never be pleased, can you? What else you want if 1.5 years is still not enough time for you to press a button? Never force updates? No, thank you botnet.
MescalambaGet Long Term Service Branch and dont give sh*t all year(s) long.

Yea sure, you dont get fancy stuff, but you get Win 10 that actually works.
And once more, unless you have volume licensing agreement with Microsoft, LTSB is illegal on home computer. And you need to have a company for that agreement.
And hey, W10 already just works. But feel free to convince me otherwise that all those hundreds of millions of computers do not and all their users suffer.
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#46
Octopuss
I wish they added an option to completely disable downloading of ANY drivers instead. Despite having all the regtweaks active, my wife's fking notebook STILL downloads "updated" network drivers/control centre (which I didn't ask for in the first place) at random times, ALWAYS causing upload to be buggily capped to 1mbit/s. Just FFS!!
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#47
TheDeeGee
CrAsHnBuRnXpThe amount of you still crying and favoring Windows 7 still astounds me.
Their time will come.

It's like that circle in BR games that slowly get's smaller for them.
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#48
Camm
So many of you guys need to grow up.

Just set updates to delay for 1-2 days for security patches, and 5-30 days for feature patches. Wallah, no more broken updates.
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#49
bobsled
I find it fascinating how some declare their dedication to Windows 7 or swear they're rolling back to it. Sure. See you back same time next year whingeing about how your OS is now out of the extended support period and software vendors have plans to ditch support for the OS. New CPUs aren't supported on Windows 7 either.

I have annoyances with Windows 10, and most honest people would have something they'd like improved as well, but most of your whinges are so petty it's sad. If you've had a stability issue, you blame the company or OS as the root cause... with anecdotal 'evidence' at best. The rose coloured glasses for Windows 7 reminds me of the Windows XP army who said the same thing about Windows 7 when it released.

Same stuff, 4 years later.
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#50
Bones
CrAsHnBuRnXpThe amount of you still crying and favoring Windows 7 still astounds me.
The amount of fools bending over for Microsoft's telemetry is astounding.

And my time has already come - That's what Linux is for.
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