londisteYou are overestimating mindset and underestimating different viewpoints or priorities. :)

That is up for debate! :cool: I won't disagree different games require different minimum FPS levels. One game might play smooth as butter when going as low as 20FPS for a few seconds while another may stutter dropping down to 40FPS. I've never seen anything stutter at 60FPS however I'm a web developer so I don't spend all my time gaming like I did out of high school. AMD is very competent when it comes to setting their prices though I agree that their marketing department could use some help. There are going to be lots of different people with differing mindsets, I just want people in general to realize buying Nvidia or Intel because they have the fastest GPU/CPU at $1,000+ is a really really bad idea to presume that they're going to get the best bang for their buck at a $100 price point in example.

What do you want to see happen in the market and why?

JAB CreationsThe Radeon VII card isn't bad from the benchmarks middling between the 2070 and 2080 and people act like it's some great disappointment. I think HBM2 has it's place though realistically once AMD has more of a budget to work with I'm sure we'll see GDDR6 and HBM2 high end cards come out at the same time. Plus people doing video editing think 16GB cards are a boon since they keep running out of GPU memory on other cards (and Nvidia's wacky RAM numbers just make my roll my eyes, 11GB? Seriously?).

Radeon VII is an RTX2080 competitor half a year later. RTX2080 in turn got a lot of deserved beating for being almost the same performance at the same price point as GTX1080Ti year and a half earlier. There are use cases where Radeon VII makes sense but for gaming it is a tough proposition. 16GB RAM is pretty much its only boon.

RAM amounts have everything to do with being as optimal as possible. Nvidia has found memory bandwidth is not a significant limiter for certain cards even when amount of memory or amount of chips is not power of two. xx60 cards with 192-bit memory bus as well as xx80Ti (and RTX 2080) with 384-bit are an example of that. That being said, 11GB and 352-bit is still a clear exercise in product segmentation where there tends to be a Titan that has a full width of memory bus.

AMD lost that choice in high end when they went for HBM2. They could not populate one or two of HBM2 stacks or populate them with lower capacity dies but it would just not be worth the trouble. In fact, as they have all the pieces in bulk, having choices there is likely to make it more expensive. In midrange/low-midrange they are stuck with 256-bit memory bus as this currently competes successfully with Nvidia's 192-bit memory bus with its better compression. 256-bit is still faster but not by much in this comparison. If AMD found doing 192-bit or 384-bit buses would be beneficial they will also do it in a heartbeat.

JAB CreationsWhat do you want to see happen in the market and why?

More competition. I hope Intel will join the fray. I hope AMD will get its R&D together and work out some of the things its GPUs are struggling with.

JAB CreationsThis is the type of arrogant ignorance that shouldn't be tolerated. Even if AMD had the near monopolistic 80% of the GPU market it would still only make up a small percentage of their total revenue. While AMD obviously cares about all of their customers they have to make sure that the lights stay on, that the debt is kept in check and keep the R&D moving forward all at the same time. No one in their right mind gives a damn what some petty arrogant person mouthing off on a website comment thinks.

Sorry, couldn't decipher what you're saying with all that ignorance.

That you Raja?, shouldn't you be ruining intels first real gpu instead of on a forum trying to defend your incapabilities?