Thursday, August 8th 2019
AMD Designing Zen 4 for 2021, Zen 3 Completes Design Phase, out in 2020
AMD in its 2nd generation EPYC processor launch event announced that it has completed the design phase of its next-generation "Zen 3" CPU microarchitecture, and is currently working on its successor, the "Zen 4." AMD debuted its "Zen 2" microarchitecture with the client-segment 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processor family, it made its enterprise debut with the 2nd generation EPYC. This is the first x86 CPU microarchitecture designed for the 7 nanometer silicon fabrication process, and is being built on a 7 nm DUV (deep ultraviolet) node at TSMC. It brings about double-digit percentage IPC improvements over "Zen+."
The "Zen 3" microarchitecture is designed for the next big process technology change within 7 nm, EUV (extreme ultraviolet), which allows significant increases in transistor densities, and could facilitate big improvements in energy-efficiency that could be leveraged to increase clock-speeds and performance. It could also feature new ISA instruction-sets. With "Zen 3" passing design phase, AMD will work on prototyping and testing it. The first "Zen 3" products could debut in 2020. "Zen 4" is being designed for a different era.
The "Zen 4" architecture is being designed for a 2021 market debut, and will come out at a time when the 7 nm process will have matured and attained high enough volumes at TSMC for AMD to either build bigger dies (more cores per chiplet), or leverage the even more advanced 6 nm EUV node. The maturity and volumes of these sub-10 nm nodes could change the economics of the MCM approach AMD is undertaking for its EPYC processors.
The "Zen 3" microarchitecture is designed for the next big process technology change within 7 nm, EUV (extreme ultraviolet), which allows significant increases in transistor densities, and could facilitate big improvements in energy-efficiency that could be leveraged to increase clock-speeds and performance. It could also feature new ISA instruction-sets. With "Zen 3" passing design phase, AMD will work on prototyping and testing it. The first "Zen 3" products could debut in 2020. "Zen 4" is being designed for a different era.
85 Comments on AMD Designing Zen 4 for 2021, Zen 3 Completes Design Phase, out in 2020
But Intel did show off a sticker..... I guess you could show us the sticker gains, how much IPC and Thz you get with a sticker that is. 0ns latency measurements on their new chips, and their new GPU, mostly since they aren't available, but look at that number... 0ns of latency... Who would have thought it possible, certainty not the knights of Ni..... Maybe it's the measurement of how long does it take a Intel fanboi to thread crap when it's about AMDs actual new product. But it can't be that, they have to mitigate for so many security issues.....
Not that it matters too much, but if AMD can pull another rabbit from their hat then Intel's gonna be in serious trouble even post ICL or whatever they put on 7nm.
The launch of Zen 2 marks the beginning of at least ~3 years of exciting years ahead. Both AMD and Intel have several new architectures (or upgraded architectures) lined up, which is something we haven't seen in many years.
I do hope AMD can continue to keep up the tempo and don't slow down the improvements with Zen 3...5.
Some rumors point to 4-way SMT and application specific instructions in Zen 3, but I hope these rumors are wrong, like most of the Zen 2 rumors were.
Still not a damn peep officially about a 58 or 5900... :-(
Should have assassinated the moles and sent Nvidia a message.
The problem is that ryzen 3000 are 4.2ghz chips, and boost doesn't really make the chip run faster except during idle loads. If ryzen 3000 actually ran at its advertised boost speed, then amd would genuinely have the faster chip.
Think like a Hbm stack on package which will seriously increase performance.
It's easy to do its just economics that decide.
But beyond that I don't think anyone have any idea of rabbits you can pull out other than density and cores with the shrinks the next 6? Years.
We're currently with Zen 2 ...
Ofc ... doesn't help Zen 2 is Ryzen 3000 series ... adds to confusion, needlessly ...
While in that time Intel kept pretty much the same design, added some cores and not much else.
How would you evolve a design through 3 node sizes and a dramatic / evolutionary change in layout and manufacture.
They did indeed risk A Lot and unlike intel they had a progressive plan so yes each part Was a Step towards something better.
You make it sound like a negative this Inovation.
Yet that's how chips are intelligently designed and built.
nvda: 13k employees
AMD: 10k employees
Oh, and thank you, Sony & Microsoft, for saving AMD with semi-custom business, while customers were opting for slower and more expensive cards from its competitors.
To get serious and on Topic, i have only this to add.
Intel is Faqed ! And im glad it is. I hope they bankrupt to be honest. They milked us all with incremental Performances increase, and People swalled it all, because there was no alternative. They knowingly throthled Progress for the sake of Profit. All a bunch of mortal greedy fucks, the whole lot of them. I hope they bankrupt, and die a teriblle death. Financially.
In the end, it is not they fault. The bigger Culprit is the "Babylonian Money Magic Slave System".
medium.com/@writemedi/how-the-babylonian-money-magic-slave-system-works-381164653772
These are the reald fuks that need to be eradicated ! As Longs as Money exists, we will never be able to reach our true capable potential. Money will walways be in the way.
Money in itself Needs to be stoped being used.