Thursday, August 8th 2019

AMD Designing Zen 4 for 2021, Zen 3 Completes Design Phase, out in 2020

AMD in its 2nd generation EPYC processor launch event announced that it has completed the design phase of its next-generation "Zen 3" CPU microarchitecture, and is currently working on its successor, the "Zen 4." AMD debuted its "Zen 2" microarchitecture with the client-segment 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processor family, it made its enterprise debut with the 2nd generation EPYC. This is the first x86 CPU microarchitecture designed for the 7 nanometer silicon fabrication process, and is being built on a 7 nm DUV (deep ultraviolet) node at TSMC. It brings about double-digit percentage IPC improvements over "Zen+."

The "Zen 3" microarchitecture is designed for the next big process technology change within 7 nm, EUV (extreme ultraviolet), which allows significant increases in transistor densities, and could facilitate big improvements in energy-efficiency that could be leveraged to increase clock-speeds and performance. It could also feature new ISA instruction-sets. With "Zen 3" passing design phase, AMD will work on prototyping and testing it. The first "Zen 3" products could debut in 2020. "Zen 4" is being designed for a different era.
The "Zen 4" architecture is being designed for a 2021 market debut, and will come out at a time when the 7 nm process will have matured and attained high enough volumes at TSMC for AMD to either build bigger dies (more cores per chiplet), or leverage the even more advanced 6 nm EUV node. The maturity and volumes of these sub-10 nm nodes could change the economics of the MCM approach AMD is undertaking for its EPYC processors.
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85 Comments on AMD Designing Zen 4 for 2021, Zen 3 Completes Design Phase, out in 2020

#76
ToxicTaZ
Super XPAGREED.

It seems people can't face the FACT AMD WON the CPU wars, and Intel is doing anything to distract ZEN, ZEN+ & ZEN2's success, including future ZEN's coming.
Its quite pathetic actually, seeing a company, Intel continue to manipulate and spread BS. Hope AMD keeps piling on pressure, competition and takes as much market share as possible.
Huh?

Coffeelake & Coffeelake Refresh blows away Zen & Zen+ in almost everything!

Spreading BS would be people trying to say otherwise! Benchmarks and reviews are everywhere!

Yes Intel doesn't have anything to compete against Zen2 yet... then again ZEN2 is basically on power with 8700K and 9700K/9900K with a cheaper price point!

9900KS is out very soon will blow away 3800X
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#77
Super XP
ToxicTaZHuh?

Coffeelake & Coffeelake Refresh blows away Zen & Zen+ in almost everything!

Spreading BS would be people trying to say otherwise! Benchmarks and reviews are everywhere!

Yes Intel doesn't have anything to compete against Zen2 yet... then again ZEN2 is basically on power with 8700K and 9700K/9900K with a cheaper price point!

9900KS is out very soon will blow away 3800X
No BS just stating HARD FACTS.
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#79
bug
Super XPLets all thank AMD for strong competition, because CPU prices are coming down.
wccftech.com/intel-guts-cpu-pricing-response-ryzen/
To nitpick, the prices are still close to $1k for the fastest CPU. But we get a lot more CPU for the money today.
So thanks, AMD. Keep up the good job.
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#80
Super XP
Not to mention Intel CPU's suffer from major malware & security issues, such as RIDL attack, the Fallout attack, ZombieLoad exploit, Meltdown security vulnerability, secret-spilling flaw, Foreshadow Flaw, Spectre exploit, Spoiler Flaw, NetCAT security vulnerability and several more.
Almost every single month we hear more and more new vulnerabilities being found with all Intel CPU's even those dated back to 2008+.

One of Intel's mitigation strategies is a software update that disabling hyperthreading. So what's the point in buying a Multi-Core Intel CPU with Hyperthreading disabled? So purchase a 8 threaded but only utilize 4 threads.

Intel took Design Shortcuts to squeeze out more performance, and got caught for it. And hopefully they pay large for this nonsense.

NOTE: AMD NOT IMPACTED!!!! :peace:
bugTo nitpick, the prices are still close to $1k for the fastest CPU. But we get a lot more CPU for the money today.
So thanks, AMD. Keep up the good job.
Agreed.
It's great to have 2 companies competing in a fair manner. Intel took advantage of the Bulldozer era far too long with very high priced CPU's that should never have been that high in price. Glad to see ZEN making a huge impact and gaining market share. FINALLY...
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#81
bug
Super XPNot to mention Intel CPU's suffer from major malware & security issues, such as RIDL attack, the Fallout attack, ZombieLoad exploit, Meltdown security vulnerability, secret-spilling flaw, Foreshadow Flaw, Spectre exploit, Spoiler Flaw, NetCAT security vulnerability and several more.
Almost every single month we hear more and more new vulnerabilities being found with all Intel CPU's even those dated back to 2008+.

One of Intel's mitigation strategies is a software update that disabling hyperthreading. So what's the point in buying a Multi-Core Intel CPU with Hyperthreading disabled? So purchase a 8 threaded but only utilize 4 threads.

Intel took Design Shortcuts to squeeze out more performance, and got caught for it. And hopefully they pay large for this nonsense.

NOTE: AMD NOT IMPACTED!!!! :peace:
www.amd.com/en/corporate/product-security

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#82
kapone32
As we can see with the drop in Cascade Lake vs the previous gen that Intel is finally relenting and changing their price structure. AMD is still ahead though as we will start to see new CPUs from them like the 3900 and 3500 and who knows what else. Then there is the promise of updated Zen chips next year and a fully fledged Navi Vega replacement. Even in the low end as well for Polaris. I expect that AMD will have positive quarters well into 2020.
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