Monday, October 7th 2019
Intel Marketing Tries to Link Stability to Turbo Boost
There is no correlation between CPU frequency boosting behavior and system stability. Intel today launched its "10th generation" Core X HEDT processors, with core-counts ranging between 10 to 18, priced between $590 and $978. Based on the 14 nm "Cascade Lake-X" silicon, these chips have the same exact IPC as "Skylake" circa 2015, but offer nearly double the number of cores to the Dollar compared to the 9th generation Core X series; and add a couple of useful instruction sets such as DLBoost, which accelerates DNN training/building; a few more AVX-512 instructions, and an updated Turbo Boost Max 3.0 algorithm. The chips offer clock-speed bumps over the previous generation.
Intel's main trade-call for these processors? Taking another stab at AMD for falling short on boost frequency in the hands of consumers. "The chip that hits frequency benchmarks as promised, our new #CoreX -series processor, provides a stable, high-performance platform for visual creators everywhere," reads the Intel tweet, as if to suggest that reaching the "promised" clock speed results in stability. AMD was confronted with alarming statistics of consumers whose 3rd generation Ryzen processors wouldn't reach their advertised boost frequencies. The company released an updated AGESA microcode that fixed this.
Source:
Intel (Twitter)
Intel's main trade-call for these processors? Taking another stab at AMD for falling short on boost frequency in the hands of consumers. "The chip that hits frequency benchmarks as promised, our new #CoreX -series processor, provides a stable, high-performance platform for visual creators everywhere," reads the Intel tweet, as if to suggest that reaching the "promised" clock speed results in stability. AMD was confronted with alarming statistics of consumers whose 3rd generation Ryzen processors wouldn't reach their advertised boost frequencies. The company released an updated AGESA microcode that fixed this.
28 Comments on Intel Marketing Tries to Link Stability to Turbo Boost
Funny and ironic, for several reasons.
also looks like PBO is coming soon:
Are you sure this is true?
What you're saying is the same as saying that because Nvidia has the fastest card on the market, we shouldn´t be happy with AMD GPUs! Sounds right to you?
People buy by necessities and budgets.
Apparently they like smashing white folks to bits...
Also, KF and F price cuts...
www.anandtech.com/show/14941/intel-announces-price-cut-for-9th-generation-f-and-kf-processors
Now we know what they value their GPU at, a massive $25...
But, as I said before, not everyone needs or has the budget to buy the CPU with most cores. That's why AMD will offer other CPUs with less cores, not only the 32 core part.
Will AMD have more cores in the HEDT market? Yes. Does this invalidate that other CPUs, such as Intel's, can serve someone's purpose? No.
That's why I talked about GPUs, just because Nvidia has a performance advantage in some segment, doesn't mean that AMD's GPUs aren´t good for nobody. The same is true here.
I was looking at today's Anandtech article about the "new" Xeon W 2200 series. I was reading it and it was like I was reading an article at Intel.com.
greetings!
AMD GPUs are an option because of their pricing and their superior performance in some cases. Intel is offering HEDT CPUs that don't justify their prices, except if we have to look at the HEDT market as another gaming market where programs prefer 4-8 fast cores than more cores that are somewhat slower at also lower prices.
Let me answer those questions for you:
1. Yes HEDT customers need the extra cores. Intel and AMD include their high core products here for a reason.
2. Budget is a lot bigger for this market. It doesn't operate like the consumer market where price is king. Often times professionals have a performance target in mind and will spend to achieve that. GIven that AMD is going to be offering more performance here for less money, the demand is going to be good.
How does this try to tie in boost with stability? Am I the only one that doesn't see this (or better doesn't read it like the OP did)? If I had to bet money, there was a typo? That whole tweet is full of them... the comma use (leave mine alone, lol)?
It should read........
The chip that hits frequency clocks as promised. Our new Core X processor provides a stable, high-performance platform for visual creators everywhere.
Instead its a blitzkreig of commas forking it up. I'm not sure what is worse, the fact that this news exists in this form, or that they botched up that bad on the grammerz in d tweetz.
Even said as is (and my grammar is off), I don't see how they are trying to tie the two points together with those words...
EDIT: Anyone else with me on that assessment??????[/quote]
EDIT2: Does any other outlet have a similar take to the OP or is this a 'just buy it' article?
EDIT3: Is this whole news article is based off of not understanding the tweet (for whatever reason)?
they might still sell a few of those given how 3900x costs +50% premium now and x570 is a price disaster (x299's are cheaper here) but meh.
X570 is for those that need PCIe 4.0. Last I checked, Intel doesn't even have a competing product. It's funny, are we now resorting to apples to oranges comparisons when Intel can't win in performance, price, power consumption, or features?