Monday, March 30th 2020

AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

Reviews of AMD's flagship mobile processor, the Ryzen 9 4900HS went live today, and the verdict is clear. Intel has lost both performance and battery-efficiency leadership over its most lucrative computing segment: mobile client computing. In a Hardware Unboxed review comparing the 4900H to Intel's current Core i9 flagship, the i9-9880H, the AMD chip at its stock 45 W TDP beats the Intel one even with the Intel chip configured to 90 W cTDP.

The 4900HS posts 11.9% higher CineBench R20 score (both chips are 8-core/16-thread) when the Intel chip is bolstered with 90 W cTDP, and a whopping 33% faster when the i9-9980H is at its stock settings, and 54% faster when its capped at 35 W cTDP. It also ends up over 150% faster than AMD's last fastest mobile processor, the 12 nm "Picasso" based Ryzen 7 3750H. The story repeats with CineBench R15 (4900H being 34% faster than stock i9-9880H), 18% faster at Handbrake HEVC, 25% faster at Blender "Classroom," and 35% faster at 7-Zip benchmark. The AMD chip lags behind by 12% in the less-parallelized Photoshop. On creativity apps that do scale with cores, such as Premiere "Warp Stabilizer 4K," the 4900HS is 12.6% faster. Gaming performance remains an even split between the two chips. Find several more interesting test results and commentary in the Hardware Unboxed presentation here. Intel has already announced a response to the 4900HS in the form of the i9-10980HK.
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211 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

#26
ShurikN
Amazing performance. In certain scenarios not even a 90w Intel part can match the 4900. The R5 is gonna be the new mid range champ. A $2500 i9 laptop couldn't match the $1500 Asus. Imagine what will happen in the $900 range

The funny thing is, Intel's 10th gen H series is the same as 9th just with a small bump in boost speeds. It's getting slaughtered and it's not even out yet. On the other hand 10nm can't hit those clock speeds as 14nm. They basically don't have anything to beat AMD until their own 7nm.
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#28
midnightoil
ppnthey configured nothing. undervolting the intel to 4.0Ghz on all cores must be doable.
But then it'll get even more annihilated in absolute performance ... and it's still not likely to hold 4.0Ghz across all cores in heavy, heavily threaded workloads at 45W, unless you have a golden bin chip.

Intel's only way out of any of this - desktop, workstation, laptop, server / HPC - is to hope their 7nm EUV process is an absolute slam dunk, and that it arrives in volume no later than Q4 2021. But that seems pretty optimistic. They'll also then need to rapidly move to 5nm and below, since TSMC and Samsung certainly are and will.

Also, I don't think Jim Keller's replacement for the Core architecture is due until late 2022 at the earliest - 2023 more likely ...
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#29
R0H1T
Darmok N JaladI didn’t have much doubt that the performance would be there, as the process advantage should play out. Intel is probably pushing its 14nm+++ beyond the optimum power mark to keep performance gains (and sales) coming. What I am the most curious about is battery life and power efficiency. If that is good, then AMD has finally arrived in the mobile space. Again, with a process advantage, there’s no reason this shouldn’t be the case, but that is all in their execution.
Most reviews have them at excellent, class leading numbers ~





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#30
phanbuey
That chip gets the same cine-bench multi score as my 8700K at 5.1Ghz with tweaked ram... at a 1/3 of the power.

Amazing.
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#31
TheLostSwede
News Editor
XuperBattery life among all reviews :

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#32
lexluthermiester
KarymidoNwaiting for more reviews but this looks bad for intel.
Yes it does.

AMD is getting on it. Didn't see this coming.
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#33
ARF
R0H1TMost reviews have them at excellent, class leading numbers ~

This is something special. Some very new power saving feature. New chipset driver?
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#34
ppn
Where is the chipset, does it have any. Will we see any desktop SKus. This is almost a 9900K as it is.
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#35
ARF
ppnWhere is the chipset, does it have any. Will we see any desktop SKus. This is almost a 9900K as it is.
It can't have 3 times longer battery life with CPU throttling only. It must have heavy power saving on the whole notebook.
The chipset is on the mainboard, as this is a non-chiplet design.
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#36
Darmok N Jalad
ARFThis is something special. Some very new power saving feature. New chipset driver?
Infinity Fabric was the idle power hog on pre-Zen2, as it had to run at the same clock as the memory. They decoupled IF/memory frequency, so now the chip idles much better.
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#37
EarthDog
ppnWill we see any desktop SKus
Ryzen 3000 series is already out. These are zen2 chips.
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#39
IceShroom
ppnWhere is the chipset, does it have any.
Most mobile AMD processor dont use any chipset. Most AMD's SoC has enough I/O for laptop, so it does not need separate chipset.
Will we see any desktop SKus. This is almost a 9900K as it is.
Desktop Renior! probably yes though with upto certen core configuration like 6C/12T.
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#40
R0H1T
If it's 8c/16t on mobile then you'll see the full lineup for desktops as well. No reason for AMD to reserve the top end just for mobile, though it may take some time given the huge demand for TSMC 7nm atm ~ which admittedly will tank after the nCoV pandemic o_O
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#41
Aldain
To top it off, this is not the FASTEST amd mobile chip, that would be the 4900 H.. the 45 W part. Intel just lost the mobile space. GLORIOUS!
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#43
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
I'm waiting for Best Buy to open up the orders for the Zephyrus G14. :shadedshu:

I'm still contemplating on waiting for future laptops with at least a RTX 2070 (or even the SUPER variants), but at 14", a good enough RTX 2060 Max-Q and being able to charge through USB-C (65W PD)? I'll probably bite.
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#45
phanbuey
The no webcam thing pretty much kills it for me. But I am more excited for what this means for the other laptops that will come out after.
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#46
Rahnak
I have to admit I did not see this big of a result coming, especially the battery life. Kudos to AMD.
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#49
SL2
Asus surely cut some corners to get to that price point, CPU and GPU are two big exceptions.

Slow display, no camera, weird, pulsing fans, single slot RAM. The design is great tho.
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#50
TheLostSwede
News Editor
MatsAsus surely cut some corners to get to that price point, CPU and GPU are two big exceptions.

Slow display, no camera, weird, pulsing fans, single slot RAM. The design is great tho.
It has 8 or 16GB soldered down, plus a slot, so it's not single channel.
As for the camera, it's an "up-sell" to this:
www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-Eye/
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