Monday, March 30th 2020

AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

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Reviews of AMD's flagship mobile processor, the Ryzen 9 4900HS went live today, and the verdict is clear. Intel has lost both performance and battery-efficiency leadership over its most lucrative computing segment: mobile client computing. In a Hardware Unboxed review comparing the 4900H to Intel's current Core i9 flagship, the i9-9880H, the AMD chip at its stock 45 W TDP beats the Intel one even with the Intel chip configured to 90 W cTDP.

The 4900HS posts 11.9% higher CineBench R20 score (both chips are 8-core/16-thread) when the Intel chip is bolstered with 90 W cTDP, and a whopping 33% faster when the i9-9980H is at its stock settings, and 54% faster when its capped at 35 W cTDP. It also ends up over 150% faster than AMD's last fastest mobile processor, the 12 nm "Picasso" based Ryzen 7 3750H. The story repeats with CineBench R15 (4900H being 34% faster than stock i9-9880H), 18% faster at Handbrake HEVC, 25% faster at Blender "Classroom," and 35% faster at 7-Zip benchmark. The AMD chip lags behind by 12% in the less-parallelized Photoshop. On creativity apps that do scale with cores, such as Premiere "Warp Stabilizer 4K," the 4900HS is 12.6% faster. Gaming performance remains an even split between the two chips. Find several more interesting test results and commentary in the Hardware Unboxed presentation here. Intel has already announced a response to the 4900HS in the form of the i9-10980HK.

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211 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

#101
ratirt
yotano211Those are all desktop ram. This is a laptop
londisteAlso, try to find some of these CAS16 DDR4-3200 modules that would run at 1.2V...
The difference between a laptop and a desktop ram is basically form factor but also the SODimm can't have ECC or registered buffer. Speed and specs are the same
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#106
Valantar
Vayra86I smell a market for a very sweet Kickstarter here supported by AMD. No OEMs? Make your own

It baffles me why OEMs would not want to present such a sweet spot, honestly. Too disruptive?
Beats me. My old ThinkPad X201 had a 35W Core i5-520M, surprisingly good battery life, and very decent cooling. And that launched in 2010 or so. I would really, really like a modern take on that (though for me iGPU performance would be as much of a priority as CPU performance, so the H/HS SKUs as they stand aren't very well suited outside of the 4900H(S)). Then again, Asus has demonstrated pretty clearly with the G14 that there isn't much of a reason for going dGPU-less with these chips. At 1.6kg it is the first proper gaming laptop I've seen actually reach my "I can imagine carrying this around with me" threshold.
ratirtNow this is a surprise. :) Never seen a SODIMM DDR4 ECC.
It's used for some mobile Xeon workstations and the like. Rare, expensive, slow, but I guess worth it for some people.
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#107
EarthDog
ValantarLast I checked, 2666 is not equal to 3200.
Indeed it isn't. However, the person I quoted specifically mentioned SO-DIMMs dont have ecc/reg and said nothing about speed (in that capacity).
ratirtThe difference between a laptop and a desktop ram is basically form factor but also the SODimm can't have ECC or registered buffer. Speed and specs are the same
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#108
ARF
CheeseballImplementing a higher-quality front-facing webcam is just added cost, especially if one won't be using it often.
They've put a 1 TB PCIe NVMe SSD and you call it saving costs? No.............
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#109
Valantar
EarthDogIndeed it isn't. However, the person I quoted specifically mentioned SO-DIMMs dont have ecc/reg and said nothing about speed (in that capacity).
Hence why I removed that from my post after realizing you were listing it as an example of ECC SODIMMs and not another 3200 1.2V kit. Kind of weird that you saw it given that the edit was pretty much immediate and there isn't any edit timestamp (which supposedly indicates anyone seeing the unedited post first).
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#110
EarthDog
ValantarHence why I removed that from my post after realizing you were listing it as an example of ECC SODIMMs and not another 3200 1.2V kit.
Welcome. You have arrived. :)

Editing again?
ValantarHence why I removed that from my post after realizing you were listing it as an example of ECC SODIMMs and not another 3200 1.2V kit. Kind of weird that you saw it given that the edit was pretty much immediate and there isn't any edit timestamp (which supposedly indicates anyone seeing the unedited post first).
Yes, I saw the post quickly. I quoted it, then quoted ratirt, and posted. I think the delay to show an edit time is at least 3 mins...considering the timestamp on mine and yours is 2 mins or less. What's your point though? You made a booboo and I happened to catch it. Shit happens man. :)

EDIT - PS the time stamp doesn't indicate anything except that a post was edited. It has nothing to do with who saw what. There is a setting in vb/xenforo where you can set this IIRC...so immediate edits won't show a time stamp.

Why are we talking about this? Who cares... move on! :)
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#111
Valantar
ARFThey've put a 1 TB PCIe NVMe SSD and you call it saving costs? No.............
Well, it is an Intel 660p, so it's no more expensive than a SATA drive.
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#112
Imsochobo
ppnGood to know, but it is already outdated or soon to be, waiting for EUV N5P Zen3+Rdna3.
DrediIt will be outdated in 2021 when the next gen AMD mobile chips get here. Nothing new and better is coming between this and then in the mobile space.
as outdated as anything else you can buy :D
run and buy is my verdict.
G14 is amazing piece of hardware and something nothing else compares to, even remotely!
ratirtNow this is a surprise. :) Never seen a SODIMM DDR4 ECC.
They're used in Xeon based laptops,
Examples:
Lenovo P50, P51, P52.
HP Zbook 15 and 17.

and so on.
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#113
Valantar
EarthDogWelcome. You have arrived. :)

Editing again?


Yes, I saw the post quickly. I quoted it, then quoted ratirt, and posted. I think the delay to show an edit time is at least 3 mins...considering the timestamp on mine and yours is 2 mins or less. What's your point though? You made a booboo and I happened to catch it. Shit happens man. :)

EDIT - PS the time stamp doesn't indicate anything except that a post was edited. It has nothing to do with who saw what. There is a setting in vb/xenforo where you can set this IIRC...so immediate edits won't show a time stamp.

Why are we talking about this? Who cares... move on! :)
You seem to be the one not moving on, I was just pointing out that it was weird. Not complaining or anything - what would there be to complain about? I would think removing it from the post pretty much spells out that I misunderstood and thus rectified it. Also, I have edited posts way later than three minutes after posting without any timestamp, so either the system is buggy or there's some other trigger. Either way, let's get back to the topic, eh?
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#114
Vya Domus
Vayra86*I'm actually starting to consider a laptop now for decent gaming. FINALLY some real CPU power in a small package. Intel hasn't managed to do this for any continuous workload in the past decade... go figure. This is a landslide right here in AMD's favor. Even the faster Intel HQ quads I had can't hold a candle to this. DAYUM.
I haven't considered buying a laptop in practically a decade because I was tired of seeing middle of the range to high end laptops being stuck with crappy underclocked quad cores.
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#115
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Vayra86I smell a market for a very sweet Kickstarter here supported by AMD. No OEMs? Make your own

It baffles me why OEMs would not want to present such a sweet spot, honestly. Too disruptive?
Let me know if this is something you want to do, I know a few manufacturers that could help.

Also, there's a lot faster laptop memory available, for a price...
www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance%C2%AE-Series-32GB-%284-x-8GB%29-DDR4-SODIMM-4000MHz-CL19-Memory-Kit/p/CMSX32GX4M4X4000C19
ValantarBeats me. My old ThinkPad X201 had a 35W Core i5-520M, surprisingly good battery life, and very decent cooling. And that launched in 2010 or so. I would really, really like a modern take on that (though for me iGPU performance would be as much of a priority as CPU performance, so the H/HS SKUs as they stand aren't very well suited outside of the 4900H(S)). Then again, Asus has demonstrated pretty clearly with the G14 that there isn't much of a reason for going dGPU-less with these chips. At 1.6kg it is the first proper gaming laptop I've seen actually reach my "I can imagine carrying this around with me" threshold.
Noise, noise and noise? It's actually quite a bulky 14-incher at that, with limited ports, partly thanks to all the cooling vents.
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#116
seronx
I'm voting blue no matter what, sorry AMD your colors are for the wrong team! /this is a joke
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#117
Vayra86
seronxI'm voting blue no matter what, sorry AMD your colors are for the wrong team! /this is a joke
At least your avatar is slowly turning to red...
INSTG8RIt’s kinda. neat to see this combo. I have 17” Turion X2 /8800M Laptop in my closet.
50 dba under load... painful. And the panel response times aren't all that either. 40ms G2G... sheeeet

Its really too bad because otherwise it looks great.
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#118
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
ARFThey've put a 1 TB PCIe NVMe SSD and you call it saving costs? No.............
That's storage. 1 TB is not enough space nowadays, especially for games (and VS projects lol). 512 GB is fine to get by for office work (256 GB even).
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#119
ShurikN
ValantarAs such we'll likely have to settle for a 25W-configured 4900U instead.
I'm gonna make a safe bet and say that the 25w "U" part is also going to be a beast in its category.
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#120
yotano211
I'm waiting for the r9 4900h version, 45w.
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#121
Valantar
TheLostSwedeNoise, noise and noise? It's actually quite a bulky 14-incher at that, with limited ports, partly thanks to all the cooling vents.
The noise isn't that bad for a thin gaming laptop (I wouldn't game on it without headphones anyway) even if it's not good either, and limited ports... meh. Two USB-C, two A and HDMI is enough for my uses.
ShurikNI'm gonna make a safe bet and say that the 25w "U" part is also going to be a beast in its category.
Yep, I don't doubt that for a second.
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#122
moob
Cheeseball1 TB is not enough space nowadays, especially for games (and VS projects lol). 512 GB is fine to get by for office work (256 GB even).
Say what now? My primary for both games and work is a 512GB SSD, and I currently have 5 games installed, including Destiny 2 (90GB), Control (42GB) and Ori and the Will of the Wisps (15GB). Not all modern games require an obscene amount of space and if they do, I'll play them and uninstall them.

Edit: If I were looking for a laptop, I'd look for one with a 512GB SSD at a minimum, with a 1TB being preferable, but 512GB is fine.
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#123
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
moobSay what now? My primary for both games and work is a 512GB SSD, and I currently have 5 games installed, including Destiny 2 (90GB), Control (42GB) and Ori and the Will of the Wisps (15GB). Not all modern games require an obscene amount of space and if they do, I'll play them and uninstall them.

Edit: If I were looking for a laptop, I'd look for one with a 512GB SSD at a minimum, with a 1TB being preferable, but 512GB is fine.
Just five games? :D

This does depend on the user's gaming habits so no argument here. With that being said, I believe that a bigger SSD would take higher priority than a webcam, especially for mobile gaming purposes.
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#124
ARF
CheeseballJust five games? :D

This does depend on the user's gaming habits so no argument here. With that being said, I believe that a bigger SSD would take higher priority than a webcam, especially for mobile gaming purposes.
Yeah, especially when the poor webcam cost is a few dollar cents...
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#125
TheLostSwede
News Editor
ValantarThe noise isn't that bad for a thin gaming laptop (I wouldn't game on it without headphones anyway) even if it's not good either, and limited ports... meh. Two USB-C, two A and HDMI is enough for my uses.
No Ethernet... Big drawback imho. No memory card slot, a slight drawback. It's not as bad as MSI's Prestige models, but still...
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