Sunday, July 5th 2020

Intel Readies Core i9-10850K 10-core/20-thread Processor

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btarunr
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Intel is giving final touches to a mysterious Core i9-10850K processor that was unearthed from the Geekbench database by TUM_APISAK. This would be the second new 10-core "Comet Lake-S" desktop processor SKU discovered in the past week, since the Apple-exclusive i9-10910. The i9-10850K is fascinating, in that it features an unlocked multiplier, 100 MHz lower nominal clocks than the i9-10900K, at 3.60 GHz, the same 5.20 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0 frequency; but an unknown Thermal Velocity Boost frequency.

It wouldn't surprise us if the processor lacked TVB altogether. It's likely that the i9-10850K is an OEM-exclusive targeted at pre-built designers that don't want to deal with the steep cooling requirements of the i9-10900K to give end-users visible boosting to its TVB Max frequencies of 5.30 GHz. The i9-10850K offers nearly identical Geekbench performance to the i9-10900K.
Source: TUM_APISAK (Twitter)

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26 Comments on Intel Readies Core i9-10850K 10-core/20-thread Processor

#1
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
Yay, another Skylake 5.0 14nm++++++++++++.. Intel's lineup has been hella boring since AMD launched the 1gen Ryzen. Intel just puts moar cores, moar clocks and moar ++++++s.
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#2
Darmok N Jalad
I suspect it's a more restrained variant that keeps thermals and power more in check. Well, relatively speaking anyway. Might also be a good way for Intel to salvage some of those 10C chips.
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#3
Caring1
"100 MHz lower nominal clocks than the i9-10900K"
3600MHz compared to 3801MHZ is 100MHz lower now?
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#4
watzupken
This could be Intel's response to AMD's price cut.
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#6
sepheronx
If the price is right, I may just see myself getting this.

Well, if they come out with a non-K variant.
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#8
dicktracy
This, along with the 10900k , will be the best CPU to pair with the RTX 3080 ti. Look at the headroom Intel gives you. Buy once and forget about upgrading your processor for many years to come. I made a mistake by buying the much slower R7 1800x over the 8700k in 2017. Fast forward to 2020 and it has aged poorly.
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#9
efikkan
Chloe PriceYay, another Skylake 5.0 14nm++++++++++++.. Intel's lineup has been hella boring since AMD launched the 1gen Ryzen. Intel just puts moar cores, moar clocks and moar ++++++s.
Intel has never gone beyond 14nm++.
watzupkenThis could be Intel's response to AMD's price cut.
More probably yields. i9-10900K is in short supply. They probably have a lot of dies that are almost good enough.
sepheronxIf the price is right, I may just see myself getting this.
Well, if they come out with a non-K variant.
These days non-K variants will throttle too much with more than 6 cores.
Why is a K-variant a problem if the price is right?
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#10
sepheronx
efikkanIntel has never gone beyond 14nm++.


More probably yields. i9-10900K is in short supply. They probably have a lot of dies that are almost good enough.


These days non-K variants will throttle too much with more than 6 cores.
Why is a K-variant a problem if the price is right?
well, the price is the main factor. But how does the Non K throttle with too many cores? I never heard of this issue.
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#11
efikkan
sepheronxwell, the price is the main factor. But how does the Non K throttle with too many cores? I never heard of this issue.
They are limited to 65W TDP, and will usually get nowhere close to rated boost clocks if you put load on many cores.
I wouldn't recommend either the i7-10700 or the i9-10900 for that reason.
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#12
ARF
dicktracyThis, along with the 10900k , will be the best CPU to pair with the RTX 3080 ti. Look at the headroom Intel gives you. Buy once and forget about upgrading your processor for many years to come.
Intel doesn't give you anything besides less cores, higher prices, higher temperatures, more difficult support and higher power consumption than the Ryzen parts.
Ryzen 4000 with Zen 3 is coming shortly and will wipe the floor with anything Intel.

I bet the 6-core Ryzen 4000 will be as fast as the 10-core Core i9.
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#14
cucker tarlson
ARFI bet the 6-core Ryzen 4000 will be as fast as the 10-core Core i9.
42% from 3600x to 4600x,sure hon
amd doubling cores and boosting frequencies makes 3900x 31% faster but sure,4600x will be over 40%.

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#15
dicktracy
ARFIntel doesn't give you anything besides less cores, higher prices, higher temperatures, more difficult support and higher power consumption than the Ryzen parts.
Ryzen 4000 with Zen 3 is coming shortly and will wipe the floor with anything Intel.

I bet the 6-core Ryzen 4000 will be as fast as the 10-core Core i9.
AMD's entire Zen 2 lineup is slower than 8700k in gaming that was released in 2017...
And calm down on the fanboying. The actual power consumption is about the same during gaming. Nobody is buying these CPUs to play Prime95 and Cinebench.


Skylake nets you way more FPS at similar power. Skylake is actually more power efficient during gaming.

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#16
cucker tarlson
dicktracyAnd calm down on the fanboying. The actual power consumption is about the same during gaming. Nobody is buying these CPUs to play Prime95 and Cinebench.
and lower on single-thread/light load tasks

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#17
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Caring1Perhaps you should have stated actual clocks in the write up, and not left people to assume you were wrong based on the numbers in the chart.
Perhaps you should learn to read.
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Caring1
btarunrPerhaps you should learn to read.
Reported!
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#19
Nephilim666
Caring1Reported!
I'd definitely get reported if I shared what I think of you after that response. Grow up mate.
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#20
EarthDog
efikkanThese days non-K variants will throttle too much with more than 6 cores.
They will/do??? Because TIM?
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#21
cucker tarlson
EarthDogThey will/do??? Because TIM?
no I think he means you gotta raise pl1 and pl2
and he is correct
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#22
W1zzard
Caring1Reported!
What's happening here? Clocks are in the news post, and line up with official spec sheets?
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#23
Caring1
W1zzardWhat's happening here? Clocks are in the news post, and line up with official spec sheets?
Someone can't take criticism so launches a personal attack casting aspersions on my ability to read.
The chart posted shows 201MHz difference, which I pointed out.
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#24
ARF
dicktracyAMD's entire Zen 2 lineup is slower than 8700k in gaming that was released in 2017...
Cherry picking data from benchmarks that only the Intel employees care about?
You know we are not gaming at 720p, so CPU doesn't matter as you wish it to.

Performance difference between 3600X and 10900K is 30%, 10850K will be 20-25%, between 65-watt 3600 and 65-watt 10900 it's 10-15%.

Zen 3 will bring 17% IPC uplift on average, with peak improvement at least 50%, plus 200-300 MHz on top.

RIP Intel :D
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#25
watzupken
dicktracyAMD's entire Zen 2 lineup is slower than 8700k in gaming that was released in 2017...
And calm down on the fanboying. The actual power consumption is about the same during gaming. Nobody is buying these CPUs to play Prime95 and Cinebench.


Skylake nets you way more FPS at similar power. Skylake is actually more power efficient during gaming.

Objectively, this is a very limited perspective. It is unreasonable to say that you will buy a rig with a top end CPU and GPU to game at 1080p. It is true that Intel still have an edge in games, but that gap is fast getting closed. Also, I doubt the Skylake chip is more efficient when gaming at higher resolution. To achieve that kind of performance, the old Skylake architecture will need to run at very high a clockspeed. In my opinion, I went for a Ryzen because I would prefer a more all rounded PC, instead of gaming focused. I am happy to lose some FPS, but I know when I am encoding/ decoding videos, it is a superior option.
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