Monday, May 31st 2021

ASUS Teases Four Upcoming X570 Motherboards with Fanless Chipset Cooling

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ASUS teased what is possibly its final round of Socket AM4 motherboards based on the AMD X570 chipset. The boards are based on the X570 chipset with the latest AGESA update that runs the chipset cooler, so thay can made do with fanless heatsink cooling. The teaser pic reveals at least four models—one based in the coveted ProArt line of creator motherboards; one from the TUF Gaming line of value-ended gaming motherboards; one form the ROG Strix series of premium gaming motherboards; and the last from the ROG Crosshair series of enthusiast/overclocking motherboards.

The motherboard in the bottom-right quadrant isn't the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, but very likely a next-gen Crosshair Formula product. The bottom-left board could be a successor to the ROG Strix X570-E Gaming. The top-right board could be a TUF Gaming X570 Pro successor; while the top-left could be an all new product based in the ProArt series.

Update May 31st: ASUS clarified in a Facebook post that these motherboards use the same X570 chipset, but take advantage of the latest AGESA firmware that lowers TDP of the chipset just enough for motherboard designers to use fanless heatsinks.
Source: HXL (Twitter)

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76 Comments on ASUS Teases Four Upcoming X570 Motherboards with Fanless Chipset Cooling

#26
Mussels
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AmaregazIsn't Am4 like end of life?
well, no. There might not be new CPUs coming for it, but the boards and one minor refresh are going to be on sale and supported for some time.

edit: and theres all those OEM model APUs that might become mainstream later too, despite not being new launches. Zen 3 APUs would shake up the ITX and low end gaming world.
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#27
cyberloner
AmaregazIsn't Am4 like end of life?
low cost cpu is not yet born.... you kidding me... i just bought 5800x :P
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#28
Chrispy_
ChaitanyaIt was motherboard manufacturers getting lazy and slapping fan on chipset instead of designing proper heatsinks(X570 Aorus xtreme was fanless from day 1) to cool chipsets. In days of AMD's own 990(~20W)/890 series of chipsets and Intel X58(~25W) all these motherboard makers had proper(to overkill) fanless cooling solutions out of the gate.
These days the board real-estate that could be for heatpipes and more chipset cooling directly eat into the space that M.2 slots take up.

I agree though, more money and design care for X570 could have found room for both M.2 slots and a better/larger passive cooler.
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#29
R00kie
X570 Tomahawk I built a PC with recently, no sign of the fan spinning
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#30
thegnome
ypsylonChipset fan is terrible thing to have. However with Gen4 it was often a necessity. Sucking up to 20W at full load you cannot leave something like this without any active airflow. Especially on TRX40.

You have to understand the manufacturers too. They don't want users to simply fry the motherboard if there is obstructed airflow around that area.

On my own example. I had 3 1080Tis (LC) for rendering and there was very little airflow coming over the chipset so fan was constantly in motion. Such annoying noise. Even low speed and chipset was around 70C it was extremely unpleasant. Now after I ditched 3 cards for 1 3090 fan never ever turn on with plenty of airflow.

I get it that consumer boards are not designed to held multiple GPUs, but still it is a safety measure. All boards can turn off chipset fan in UEFI or you can manually pull the plug from the motherboard. It's that simple and complaining about chipset fan is redundant.
Honestly it only really was necessary on TRX40, X570 would've been totally fine had the big 4 just thought about making a proper heatsink, for most people the fan barely runs at all and that's with the tiny "heatsink" they have with a fan next to it. And since most people these days probably have a open-style GPU it's usually more than enough airflow even with a tiny heatsink.
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#31
jeremyshaw
After a bit of crawling around, I have now found the X570 chipset fan on my ASUS TUF X570 is the single noisiest component in my PC, and I had unfairly associated the fan noise to my case fans and GPU. Turns out, it was all the chipset fan's fault all along. No BIOS option to reduce the fan speed, either.
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#32
birdie
Legacy-ZAFinally, got the memo? Anyone old enough will tell you, a chipset fan, is one of the worst things to have on a motherboard.
Looks like AMD saved on motherboard chipsets and used the worst node to produce them. Have they been produced using the TSMC 7nm node, maybe their power consumption wouldn't have shot through the roof. I still don't understand why so many people worship AMD despite the fact that the company tries to rip you off at every turn.
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#33
TumbleGeorge
Why manufacturers not published full characteristic of it's X570S motherboards right now? The market sales is so close. What they may lose/win if make this publishing now and if wait to a "spacial" days next month?
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#34
TechLurker
birdieLooks like AMD saved on motherboard chipsets and used the worst node to produce them. Have they been produced using the TSMC 7nm node, maybe their power consumption wouldn't have shot through the roof. I still don't understand why so many people worship AMD despite the fact that the company tries to rip you off at every turn.
Can't rip people off when the only viable chipset around happens to be your repurposed one, because the intended chipset maker was way behind in getting theirs developed and qualified.

Especially considering that the original X570 chipsets weren't ready in time from the usual chipset maker(s), so they just ripped off the I/O from their EPYCs and repurposed them into usable chipsets, and found that it granted more use out of their binning processes. IIRC, the original chipset maker never did get around to making functional or more competitive X500 chipsets; they just focused on B500 and A500 chipsets instead (which were mostly X400 and B400 chipsets with validated PCIe 4.0 links to the NVMe and 1st x16 slot), leaving AMD's repurposed I/O dies to handle the high-end. If I'm not misremembering as well, it had to do with full PCIe 4.0 stability.

AMD already explained why they've been using 14nm for the I/O dies in the first place; both to fulfill their amended GloFo agreement (alongside old Polaris production), and because I/O never scaled down as efficiently or well as other elements. The I/O die itself has always been the "weakest" part of Ryzen, insofar as power and heat when loaded. It's only recently that AMD seems to have improved it enough for possible 7nm, if the rumors are to go by.
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#35
Anymal
Welcome to 21st century, again, ASUS.
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#36
heinztvoert
R00kieX570 Tomahawk I built a PC with recently, no sign of the fan spinning
Same with mine, had it over 7 months, and do video, photos and heavy editing, Never saw the fan spin through the glass.. I think the secret is to have a good case with good cooling. I still use my HAF 932 with liquid cooled CPU and good fans.. all parts stay nice and cool.
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#38
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
jeremyshawAfter a bit of crawling around, I have now found the X570 chipset fan on my ASUS TUF X570 is the single noisiest component in my PC, and I had unfairly associated the fan noise to my case fans and GPU. Turns out, it was all the chipset fan's fault all along. No BIOS option to reduce the fan speed, either.
should be in the Qfan menu
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#39
Ja.KooLit
Oricon2017I think the motherboard in the bottom-right quadrant is Strix X570-XE, the bottom-left board is Crosshair VIII EXTREME.
wait what? There is an extreme now? And where would it be position? before crosshair viii hero or after? Btw, the bottom left is just showing the supremefx in which I believe its only for audio if I remember it correctly with asus boards
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#40
ION89T
night.foxwait what? There is an extreme now? And where would it be position? before crosshair viii hero or after? Btw, the bottom left is just showing the supremefx in which I believe its only for audio if I remember it correctly with asus boards
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#41
Ja.KooLit
wow that takes whole tpu page haha
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#42
ThrashZone
Hi,
Asus marketing tech lol who cares what they say Mr. Ed and some peanut butter would be as informative
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#43
Oricon2017
night.foxwait what? There is an extreme now? And where would it be position? before crosshair viii hero or after? Btw, the bottom left is just showing the supremefx in which I believe its only for audio if I remember it correctly with asus boards

here
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#44
Mysteoa
The amount of people just commenting "fan is bad" without understanding the need of it is astonishing. The fan was only necessary for when you were running PCIEX4 SSD in a long transfer scenario. In all other cases is probably off.
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#45
D.Crepit
Virtually every case I can think of has a fan right in that corner where
the chipset heatsink is located. Is it possible we haven't figured
out that the air flow from those fans alone is greater than what some
built in toy fan can do?

Same with NVMe drives... not only do you have the airflow from the
typical front fans, but often these cases have a side fan ( try and find a case
without one... not that many ) virtually right on top of the position of
the NVMe sockets...
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#46
jmcosta
thegnomeIntel doesn't have a PCIe 4 capable chipset though, the only PCIe 4 lanes on Rocket Lake come directly from the CPU while the Z590 chipset only uses 3.0 lanes. Z590 is basically an upgraded Z490 while still only supporting 3.0.
The z590 is still a vary capable chip for a fanless design. It offers a huge variety of interface


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#48
TechLurker
D.CrepitVirtually every case I can think of has a fan right in that corner where
the chipset heatsink is located. Is it possible we haven't figured
out that the air flow from those fans alone is greater than what some
built in toy fan can do?

Same with NVMe drives... not only do you have the airflow from the
typical front fans, but often these cases have a side fan ( try and find a case
without one... not that many ) virtually right on top of the position of
the NVMe sockets...
Did you forget about the current trend of tempered glass cases and silent cases? Or the fact that GamersNexus has constantly been railing on case manufacturers for popularizing cases that can barely breathe and even more, all those prebuilts with nearly zero airflow?

You'd have to go back a bit to older cases with acrylic side panels or old-fashioned covered side panels that have intake/exhaust fan mounting points over the GPU/NVMe area such as the Rosewill Thor V2, or spend a fair bit more on high-end cases that add those back as a special feature, if one doesn't want some sort of open-air case.

The tiny fan is only a small part of the problem, the bigger two are the fact that most will shove high-end mobos into crappy cases, and the rarer but occasional heavy loads put on the chipset and causing it to warm up enough to need the fan for the duration of the loading.
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#49
Max(IT)
how can someone want to spend a lot of money on an AM4 board in 2021 ?
there are quite a lot of very good <$200 B550 motherboard on the market.
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#50
D.Crepit
TechLurkerDid you forget about the current trend of tempered glass cases and silent cases? Or the fact that GamersNexus has constantly been railing on case manufacturers for popularizing cases that can barely breathe and even more, all those prebuilts with nearly zero airflow?
...
ALAS, you are correct, the trend isn't your friend there these days.

We'll just have to be a bit more careful I guess... ;)
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