Friday, December 3rd 2021
Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu
Microsoft Windows 11, now nearing its third month since release, is for all intents and purposes, a flop. Market research by Lansweeper, which surveyed over 10 million PCs across the commercial and personal market segments, reports that less than 0.21% of the users it surveyed, had upgraded from Windows 10 to the newer operating system. The upgrade is free of charge. There may be several factors contributing to this lukewarm market response, but one of them is certain to he the steep hardware requirements. Windows 11 requires a trusted platform module (TPM 2.0), which disqualifies PCs older than 2018 for upgrades, unless the user is willing to try out workarounds to the limitation. Another factor could be the clunky user interface (UI), a less functional Start menu than Windows 10, and several UI-related bugs.
According to Lansweeper's data, there could be more people running outdated Windows XP, Vista, Windows 8, etc., than Windows 11, and this poses a great security risk, as these operating systems are no longer supported by Microsoft for regular security updates. Windows 10, on the other hand, is eligible for them until mid-2025—plenty of time for people to upgrade hardware to meet Windows 11 system requirements, or to simply make up their mind on switching over to the new operating system. In related news, Microsoft could give the Windows 11 Start menu a functional update. Test build 22509 introduces the ability to add more pins to the menu, or make room for more recommendations. The UI could see many such minor updates.
Sources:
Tech Radar PRO, HotHardware
According to Lansweeper's data, there could be more people running outdated Windows XP, Vista, Windows 8, etc., than Windows 11, and this poses a great security risk, as these operating systems are no longer supported by Microsoft for regular security updates. Windows 10, on the other hand, is eligible for them until mid-2025—plenty of time for people to upgrade hardware to meet Windows 11 system requirements, or to simply make up their mind on switching over to the new operating system. In related news, Microsoft could give the Windows 11 Start menu a functional update. Test build 22509 introduces the ability to add more pins to the menu, or make room for more recommendations. The UI could see many such minor updates.
393 Comments on Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu
Incidentally, MS did everything flat because they wanted cross-platform software that would work on mobile, that was very underpowered at the time. Today, the flatness is still with us, but the hardware limitations (or MS's ambitions for mobile) are long gone.
My CPU is a 3770K, I know is old, but I want to question if somebody else noticed that/
I know from how much my brother despised MSWin 10, a MSW11 system would severely piss him off. As a comparison I built a Fedora install on a test machine (absolutely a machine MSWin 11 would never support) and it was cleaner, and faster than MSWin on newer hardware, and had nearly all the functionality of his current MSWin10 systems. Granted, it helps that he's already using MSWin versions of open-source software wherever possible, so they're going to be the exact same programmes on Linux as on MSWindows. Certainly you can have themes that have some actual texture to them, and not the flatso-fugly look of MSW8-11, Material Design, etc.
medium.com/geekculture/windows-11-is-officially-a-failure-141c4027a308
why was 11 even released? I had a hard time pushing to 10 from 7 with the principle "if it aint broken why fix it". Now im more than happy with 10 and I hope we won't be forced to upgrade at any point.
Down to the nitty gritty.... does 11 offer anything special for someone who uses their PC primarily for general use, work (office applications) and gaming?
i remember when w10 come out everyone i knew wanted to upgrade, now no one cares about it
Games are supposed to use TPM 2.0 to magically fix all cheating, but then again whats the point when all online games are trash monetizers.
they broke the start menu, with no option to undo it, and also broke most existing right-click interactions - have fun actually getting office work done :D
I've been daily-driving 11 on my laptop for the last 6+ months at this point - because one day I may be tasked with deploying it en-masse to hundreds of machines at work. I have been using it long enough now that I think I've unearthed every quirk and change in the interface and yet I still breathe a sigh of relief when I switch back to my W10 gaming/HTPC machines and stuff just takes fewer clicks and I regain functionality and shortcuts that have just been stripped from W11 for no good reason.
To date, I've yet to find a single thing that's actually better about it. If you don't have Alder Lake E-cores to worry about, I'm advising everyone who asks that it's full of several SaaS irritations that add nothing of value, force Microsoft crap down your throat more than W10 does, and it has no unique selling point that makes it worth bothering with unless you bought an Alder Lake i7/i9 and require the updated scheduler.
Using Open Shell and a few registry tweaks I have 11 to my liking at this point in time. I'm also using Win 11 Pro 22H2 and it's somewhat pre-modded already. I got the .iso from a friend that works in IT for an internationally known professional tool manufacturer that's headquartered nearby here. They stripped a lot out of it, it's only 2.6GB in size and all of those annoying screens at the end of the installation that gives MS permission to spy on you are gone. During setup the company logo is the only thing you see and when the desktop appears the company logo is on it against a white background.
The install is FAST, so far the fastest I've ever seen from a MS product. He said it's a work in progress to entice employees still running Win 7 on company laptops to upgrade and not use KMS while in development (their company desktops are on Win 10 Enterprise 21H2 at the moment). The company is doing this in-house because in the past MS hasn't been able to provide a satisfactory product for their needs. He has some amusing horror stories of MS badly fux0ring things up during previous attempts in the past. I'm also a friend of the company Executive Vice-President but I'm not going to mention this to him.
If MS could get it together to create an OS that looks like Win 7 with the performance of 11 and removed all of the useless bloatware they'd have a genuine winner for the enthusiast users. Of course all of us here know that'll never happen.
I haven't really committed to the Enterprise version of W11 yet because I'm assuming W12 or some uberpatch for W11 that corrects the worst grievances of W11 will arrive. An antitrust ruling from the US or EU is likely to mandate that again soon because I couldn't believe the amount of obnoxious bullshit steps it took to do simple crap like disabling telemetry, choosing non-microsoft browsers/apps etc in the "consumer" install...
I haven't really found anything redeemable about 11 even performance is on par with 10
Once you find out how many items need changing you also find out how limited the UI allows it without third partyware
I never needed a third party to change 10's start menu but 11 sure does thankfully explorerpatcher does what should be builtin ways to get around the silly win-8 desktop replacement page and go right to all apps.
Show more context menu is just the most basic example that ms has shown how stupid ms heads are for leaving it :laugh:
So yeah I got some cheap win-11 pro key for 5 machine activation for like 25.us off godeals but I rarely use 11 at all why bother seeing 22h2 ms is pushing hard for everyone to use ms accounts so I say go for it ms dig your own grave I dare you :cool:
The workarounds are pretty plentiful and easy so far but I doubt I'll bother using them anymore it's just another 10 bottom line.
@ microsoft(and yes we know you lurk)
The only way you are going to turn this around is if you STOP with the bullshit!
STOP trying to force people to newer hardware. Most are giving you the finger if they're not using a by-pass. This is NOT going to change. Forcing people to newer hardware is wasteful and unreasonable. People are not just saying no to spite you, they're doing it because they see ZERO valid reason to replace a PC that works perfectly and will continue to do so.
STOP trying to force an ms account on everyone. Most people don't want to use the store, for good reasons.
STOP spying on everyone! Really! What you're doing is borderline illegal, arguably unethical and fully unacceptable.
STOP forcing people to use programs you provide. Defender, Edge, WMP, etc., etc... Most people want to run what THEY want. They don't need you telling them how to use their PC's.
STOP acting like pathetic wannabe Nazi's goose-stepping your shit agenda all over the globe.
Windows 11 is a solid step forward in the UI and baseline functionality department. But it's comes with all your tacked on crap, which no one wants. The only people using 11 are people who don't care or people like me, expert power users who know how to disable/remove/delete what we don't want and can work around the rest.
In the HIGHLY customized form I'm running 11, I love it! But ONLY in this highly customized form. In it's stock/default configuration it is fully and completely unacceptable! You couldn't PAY me to run it like that.
You're either going to swallow your pride, back down and offer Windows in a way that will be acceptable and pleasing to the computing public or your going to continue on your merry way and go belly up. The writing is on the wall, and you put it there...
Put another way: Quit being bone-headed dumbasses, pull your heads from your rectums and do the RIGHT and CORRECT things.
All I have to say about the requirements isthis. Goodbye, unwatching this thread full of misinformed cynics.