Friday, December 3rd 2021

Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu

Microsoft Windows 11, now nearing its third month since release, is for all intents and purposes, a flop. Market research by Lansweeper, which surveyed over 10 million PCs across the commercial and personal market segments, reports that less than 0.21% of the users it surveyed, had upgraded from Windows 10 to the newer operating system. The upgrade is free of charge. There may be several factors contributing to this lukewarm market response, but one of them is certain to he the steep hardware requirements. Windows 11 requires a trusted platform module (TPM 2.0), which disqualifies PCs older than 2018 for upgrades, unless the user is willing to try out workarounds to the limitation. Another factor could be the clunky user interface (UI), a less functional Start menu than Windows 10, and several UI-related bugs.

According to Lansweeper's data, there could be more people running outdated Windows XP, Vista, Windows 8, etc., than Windows 11, and this poses a great security risk, as these operating systems are no longer supported by Microsoft for regular security updates. Windows 10, on the other hand, is eligible for them until mid-2025—plenty of time for people to upgrade hardware to meet Windows 11 system requirements, or to simply make up their mind on switching over to the new operating system. In related news, Microsoft could give the Windows 11 Start menu a functional update. Test build 22509 introduces the ability to add more pins to the menu, or make room for more recommendations. The UI could see many such minor updates.
Sources: Tech Radar PRO, HotHardware
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393 Comments on Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu

#176
ARF
It is also quite possible that Microsoft had received a decent financial aid from Intel to launch the cancelled Windows 10X rebranded as Windows "11" in order to boost or try to boost the 12th gen Core line sales.
You know Intel-Microsoft work closely, no wonder that AMD didn't get exclusive Ryzen proper support.

When AMD heavily outsells Intel in the free market (DIY) outside of the dirty corporate affairs of the OEMs, the likes of Dell, Lenovo, HP and other crap outhere.
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#177
lexluthermiester
RavenmasterThe funny thing is, windows 11 is basically windows 10 with a lick of paint and a few icons shuffled around.
That's like saying Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a new coat of paint, which is complete nonsense.
RipcordIts a flop because every other version of windows has been 100% backward compatible. windows 11 isn't
Incorrect. I have had NO compatibility issues with Windows 11. In fact, I have had an easier time running some programs on 11 than on 10.
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#178
ARF
lexluthermiesterThat's like saying Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a new coat of paint, which is complete nonsense.
Windows 10 is a fixed Windows 8. Windows "11" is a modified Windows 10 with missing features and lower productivity performance..
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#179
Adam Krazispeed
GIVE ME WINDOWS 7 LIKE UI AND ILL USE IT IF NOT IM GOING TO LINUX, AKA POP OS FOR GAMING SO SCREW MICRO$OFT!!!!! THEY DONT HAVE THE OS SPACE ANYMORE!!!!
lexluthermiesterThat's like saying Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a new coat of paint, which is complete nonsense.


Incorrect. I have had NO compatibility issues with Windows 11. In fact, I have had an easier time running some programs on 11 than on 10.
well i have and i had a dual boot to check out win11 and i freeking HATE IT.. Iv had apps that kept crashing (that dont in Win10 or 7) and i despise th damn start menu.... I want win 7 start menu and explorer UI back and STOP FORCING MY DRIVERS TO UPDATE (ESPECIALLY MY REALTEK HD AUDIO DRIVERS) THE MS DRIVER DOENOT GIVE ME EQUALIZER SETTING AND DRIVER AUTO UPDATES REMOVE ALL MY SAVED SETTING ONLY TO HAV TO KEEP REVERTING EVERYTHING!!!! PHUCK MS IM DONE!!! GOIN TO POP OS FOR GAMING!!!! LINUX WIL TAKE OVER MS IF YOU DONT STOP PHUCKING AROUND!!!!!

not to mention i had win 11 installed on my 5800x Ryzen and Radeon RX 6800XT for like a week...
and played a game that crashed hard (win 10 never did) and on reboot i get BSOD on my win11 saying " critical Process died " and just restarts... only my win10 will boot n now (both on same drive, so i now it not my SSD) so im done with win11 for @ minimum 6 months, to a year.... they should have waited till Jan-july 2022, but no they had to rush it out just win 10 with some sh!t removed and a new skin.. that look too much like Mac OS to me so Phuck MS im done!!!!

and if you look at alot of default MS drivers especialy for cpu or most if not all (except thos you install like AMD/Nvidia GPU/Chipset Drivers etc) all MS driver still show (2006) as the drivers date with wwin10 or 11s VErsion number ..lol LAzy MFers
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#180
Jism
ARFIt is also quite possible that Microsoft had received a decent financial aid from Intel to launch the cancelled Windows 10X rebranded as Windows "11" in order to boost or try to boost the 12th gen Core line sales.
You know Intel-Microsoft work closely, no wonder that AMD didn't get exclusive Ryzen proper support.

When AMD heavily outsells Intel in the free market (DIY) outside of the dirty corporate affairs of the OEMs, the likes of Dell, Lenovo, HP and other crap outhere.
Pretty much possible.

I just hate it that the majority of users now is a "beta tester" on default. You got a BSOD after an update? Good luck solving it!

Ive disabled everything in regards of updates and telemetry in W10. I'm still on 1903. Refuse to update. And for good cause. Last update caused my stored passwords in Windows FTP to be removed completely. And those where like 100 stores passwords. Great job!
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#181
Caring1
JismLast update caused my stored passwords in Windows FTP to be removed completely. And those where like 100 stores passwords. Great job!
At least with passwords theres a chance you can remember a lot of them and store them again.
An update made all the pictures I had disappear, gone for good, the pics folder was empty after. :shadedshu:
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#182
SKD007
Right click on filed and desktop is messed up and start menu messed up, task manager removed from task bar and most of all trying to unify interface like they did with windows8. No wonder. Hope they stick to win10 shell and win 11 under the hood.
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#183
Slizzo
TartarosDoes the tpm thing affect something performance wise?
Not really, no. I've Windows 11 installed on my X299 system, and worked around the install to get it on my Son's X99 system.
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#184
N7Commander
I don't need more Pins. I need the ability to categorize my group apps. Like Office with all my office apps, config with Al my configuration apps etc.


I use 3 monitor and zero icons on desktop, I use Start menu in win10 to open my apps over my opened software avoiding the needed to minimize my apps, I am productive, this win 11 start menu its unproductive.

with this Start menu, I will never upgrade to win11.
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#185
WonkoTheSaneUK
  1. Tried it
  2. Deleted it
  3. Installed Kubuntu
All my most used programs are multi-platform anyway, and games run via Steam/Proton or WINE, so I'm happy.
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#186
ARF
After this exceptionally bad acceptance by the public, I find it appropriate that Microsoft should stand up and excuse itself for this failure, and excuse itself for the lie that Windows 10 would be the last Windows version ever.
Windows 10 should keep received updates and should receive a new support period till at least 2035.
We don't need a new Windows other than Windows 10.

Why Microsoft Announced Windows 10 Is 'The Last Version Of Windows' (forbes.com)
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#187
chrcoluk
Well this thread has certainly put my first opinion that no one seems to be downgrading to shame, I guess I am not alone on my thoughts then.

The majority of the security enhancements can be enabled in 10, I feel 11 was done just to try and push people to a new UI and also an excuse to make people buy new hardware. (4k monitors to compensate for lost real estate, and newer chips/boards for the higher TPM requirements). Sadly I think Microsoft have longed worked with hardware vendors, it was made obvious to me when all the vendors in unison pulled their Windows 8 drivers when Microsoft decided they wanted to pretend that OS no longer existed.
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#188
cyneater
Adam KrazispeedGIVE ME WINDOWS 7 LIKE UI AND ILL USE IT IF NOT IM GOING TO LINUX, AKA POP OS FOR GAMING SO SCREW MICRO$OFT!!!!! THEY DONT HAVE THE OS SPACE ANYMORE!!!!
Agreeded ...
Can't remember what version of unix but it used CDE similar or KDE
looks alot like windows 95...

Most Gu's have some sort of start menu or the mac / amiga drop down at the top menu

Microsoft has tried to re-invent the wheel and failed since windows 8.
Windows 8 ran pretty well but the crappy start menu and samba issues turned me away.

Windows 7 I had it skined to look like 95 ...
As long as I have a startmenu non of this 7+ bastardized so called start menu I'm happy.

Like many others looking at going to some form of linux. I just like LXDE and lubuntu seems the okayish place.
As we speak playing with LXDE based distros trying to find one I like.

and now to find a replacement for kodi as they have lost the way as well.
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#189
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
Nothing to complain here, upgraded from Win10 and it has worked flawlessly. Also did a clean install on my laptop and no problems there as well.
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#190
beautyless
Using Ryzen 5 2600, Windows 11 Insider, No new issues found outside what they already been in W10.
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#191
lexluthermiester
Caring1At least with passwords theres a chance you can remember a lot of them and store them again.
An update made all the pictures I had disappear, gone for good, the pics folder was empty after. :shadedshu:
This is, yet again, another example of why automatic updates are total fu&*ery and need to be disabled. This is also why regular backups are important. No offense to you of course Caring1.
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#192
Unregistered
lexluthermiesterThis is, yet again, another example of why automatic updates are total fu&*ery and need to be disabled. This is also why regular backups are important. No offense to you of course Caring1.
Is there a way to turn auto updates off, so i can only do it manually?
#193
Legacy-ZA
I only upgraded to have access to direct-storage. Just how I only upgraded to Windows 10 for DX12 Ultimate. This is getting annoying, I thought they were just going to call it "Windows" from now on and update it acoordingly.
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#194
lexluthermiester
TiggerIs there a way to turn auto updates off, so i can only do it manually?
WinAeroTweaker has the option or you can disable the services yourself. Disable Background Intelligent Transfer Service and Windows Update. Windows Update Medic Service can be disabled but requires some registry fiddling.
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#195
chrcoluk
TiggerIs there a way to turn auto updates off, so i can only do it manually?
I dont know if this will work on Win 11.

But I do the following on Win 10.

Group policy set to check for updates but not auto download.

Install wumgr, and use that for updates, its basically very similar to windows7/8 levels of control. Including hiding updates.

One guy here claims it works fine on Win 11.

Windows11/comments/phwfc9
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#196
defaultluser
SelayaThe tradition of the bust release inbetween good ones continues. Given the past track record, this doesn't surprise me at all.
Yeah. I'm patiently awaiting the Rushed Windows 11 service Pack 2 , rebranded as Windows 12!

Its the same move they made with both Vista (rushed-out in a record 2 years) and 8 (3 years was impressive turnaround time, givern how broke it was!)
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#197
ARF
defaultluserYeah. I'm patiently awaiting the Rushed Windows 11 service Pack 2 , rebranded as Windows 12!

Its the same move they made with both Vista (rushed-out in a record 2 years) and 8 (3 years was impressive turnaround time, givern how broke it was!)
Well, I think it would be better if they simply cancel the development of Windows "11", and move the performance improvements towards new Windows 10 quarterly Updates.
TiggerIs there a way to turn auto updates off, so i can only do it manually?
Err, is this a serious question?! Of course, you can.

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#198
Unregistered
ARFWell, I think it would be better if they simply cancel the development of Windows "11", and move the performance improvements towards new Windows 10 quarterly Updates.




Err, is this a serious question?! Of course, you can.

i can obviously pause update for 5 weeks at a time. i mean stop them altogether.
ARFWell, I think it would be better if they simply cancel the development of Windows "11", and move the performance improvements towards new Windows 10 quarterly Updates.
Why would they do that when they already have 11 out. You don't have to use 11 after all.
#199
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
I’m definitely in no hurry but this morning I read Oculus software currently doesn’t work on Win11 so glad I didn’t find that out the hard way.
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#200
RaceJay
Microsoft needs to lower their minimum spec on CPU down to 2nd generation Intel Core...
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