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Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu

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Microsoft Windows 11, now nearing its third month since release, is for all intents and purposes, a flop. Market research by Lansweeper, which surveyed over 10 million PCs across the commercial and personal market segments, reports that less than 0.21% of the users it surveyed, had upgraded from Windows 10 to the newer operating system. The upgrade is free of charge. There may be several factors contributing to this lukewarm market response, but one of them is certain to he the steep hardware requirements. Windows 11 requires a trusted platform module (TPM 2.0), which disqualifies PCs older than 2018 for upgrades, unless the user is willing to try out workarounds to the limitation. Another factor could be the clunky user interface (UI), a less functional Start menu than Windows 10, and several UI-related bugs.

According to Lansweeper's data, there could be more people running outdated Windows XP, Vista, Windows 8, etc., than Windows 11, and this poses a great security risk, as these operating systems are no longer supported by Microsoft for regular security updates. Windows 10, on the other hand, is eligible for them until mid-2025—plenty of time for people to upgrade hardware to meet Windows 11 system requirements, or to simply make up their mind on switching over to the new operating system. In related news, Microsoft could give the Windows 11 Start menu a functional update. Test build 22509 introduces the ability to add more pins to the menu, or make room for more recommendations. The UI could see many such minor updates.
Sources: Tech Radar PRO, HotHardware

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393 Comments on Windows 11 a Flop, Survey Claims Less Than 1% Upgraded, Microsoft Improves Start Menu

#101
jmeistr
I reverted back to Win 10 after 30min. Win 11 felt a lot less user friendly and filled with bugs.
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#102
CrAsHnBuRnXp
AusWolfAs for me, I don't need another crappy Start menu to fix the current crappy one. Just bring back any Start menu from between Windows 95 and Windows 7, and I'll be happy, thank you very much.
It's called Start11. Im using it and im also using another app to bring back my taskbar options like they were on Windows 10 but the name eludes me atm.

Windows 11 is pretty much working flawless for me and I have no issues.
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#103
sil3ntearth
I've gone back and forth between Windows 10 and 11 on my machine. I'm back on 10 21H2 right now, because I just don't care for 11. Plus, there are still quite a few random bugs that I run into from time to time. Unless there's a legit reason for people to upgrade (directstorage would be a start), nobody will. There's just no reason to really.
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#104
AugeK
I switched to 11 a couple of weeks ago, no hassle so far.
Ryzen 7 3800 and ASRock 450 board.
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#105
mechtech
Maybe cause most people can’t upgrade cause pc over 3 years old.
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#106
lexluthermiester
Caring1I like having the control panel still, but Microsoft is intent on removing it with W11.
Then why would they enhance access to it? Accessing the classic control panel is MUCH easier in 11 than 10.
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#107
Mysteoa
Where is the "no Recommended" option, Microsoft? Stop trying to push your way of doing thing. Many people have specifically requested the option to remove it entirely, and you just didn't want to commit.
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#110
LiveOrDie
Windows 11 is old news I'm waiting for Windows 12 should be a few months away.
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#112
Caring1
I did read it, what makes you think I didn't?
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#113
zlobby
InVasManiWindows 11 your computer seems to be running virus free also we've reinstalled Minecraft and Candy Crush and added them to your Start Menu again along with the other stuff you uninstalled good effort nice try.
Even M$ admitted that it's no longer 'My Computer'. It's now 'This PC' because for them it's just that, an another PC.
TheinsanegamerNWindows 11 changes the UI, which is an immediate non starter for many. It doesnt support 7th gen or older platforms, which wipes out a LOT of legacy hardware. It needs TPM 2.0, which wipes out yet more of the applicable hardware. It offers nothing to the end user in terms of useful software updates or features. Is it any surprise people dont touch the damn thing?

And guys, look, lets gets oen thing clear here. Can the TPM requirement be worked around? Absolutely, just like windows 10 can be tweaked to boot on a pentium III. That does not mean the vast majority of users will do that. Most users do not know how to bypass TPM 2.0, fewer want to try and modify windows 11 so it will boot. Of the tiny percentage of end users who DO know how to do this, even fewer want to. Could I bypass the requirements ot get this to load on my PC? absolutely. Do I want to? HELL NO. If I wanted to tweak and bypass stuff to get my OS to work, I'd use linux (which I do, for the most part, since if I'm putting that work in I'm avoiding MS at all costs).

MS shot themselves in the foot restricting windows 10.1 so harshly. Backwards compatibility is a big selling point for windows.

By "hefty performanc penalty" you mean 1%? Because those who HAVE worked around the restrictions have reported almost no difference in performance.

Requiring TPM 2.0 is just a dog and pony show to work witht he like of netflix, amazon, et al that want to stop those eanie pirates recording their content. And if you believe conspiracy theories, a way to ban people who say no no words from ever using a computer again.
Mobile 2700U runs the so called 'enchanced security' pretty well by default, i.e. HVCI, SLAT, TPM2.0, etc. Yet, M$ claim it can't work with Win 11... Fat middle finger at you, M$!
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#114
windwhirl
MysteoaWhere is the "no Recommended" option, Microsoft? Stop trying to push your way of doing thing. Many people have specifically requested the option to remove it entirely, and you just didn't want to commit.
You can disable it, but you get an empty half of start menu.
lexluthermiesterYou need to actually read that article. The devil is in the details.
Yep, slow-going process, but it's inevitable.

What I'd really like to see is the ability to have multiple Settings windows open. Just the one is really bad.
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#115
Auxityne
Microsoft's CPU compatibility cutoff caused me to check out of Windows 11 completely. Even if I build a Zen 4 system next year, it'll have Windows 10. I refuse to have anything to do with 11.
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#116
Mysteoa
windwhirlYou can disable it, but you get an empty half of start menu.
I know, I have been looking at it since the beta and I have given feedback in the hub.
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#117
skizzo
when I think of flop and Windows in the same sentence.....here is screen shot of your new OS desktop



I didn't even start using Windows 10 until around 2018 lol and I only plan to to upgrade to 11 if I get a new system in years or if some game I got to play makes it a non negotiable requirement.
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#118
shovenose
bugStrange behavior indeed, but I thought you'd keep a server in wake-on-lan mode or smth.
Meh, it's not mission critical but it's definitely annoying when I'm asleep or at my day job and Windows 11 decides shutting down my computer whenever it darn well pleases is more important than whatever I'm running on it.
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#119
zlobby
shovenoseMeh, it's not mission critical but it's definitely annoying when I'm asleep or at my day job and Windows 11 decides shutting down my computer whenever it darn well pleases is more important than whatever I'm running on it.
Shhhh! You're using it wrong! Stop with the unfounded hatred already! :D
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#120
Slizzo
CrAsHnBuRnXpIt's called Start11. Im using it and im also using another app to bring back my taskbar options like they were on Windows 10 but the name eludes me atm.

Windows 11 is pretty much working flawless for me and I have no issues.
I, too, use Start 11. I used Start 8 when I was running Windows 8 and 8.1, I enjoyed the options it brought me. Start 11 is great and brought back my old Start screen as well as the right click menu on the taskbar.
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#121
Tartaros
My experience so far has been install Start11, move start menu to the left and disable new right click menu. So it's like nothing has changed to me xDD

Apart from that, I'm pleased with it. I don't know if I'm suggested or something but I feel it snappier than 10. The new Edge it's good too.
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#122
lexluthermiester
Seems I'm going against the grain, but I like Windows 11, minus the TPM/SecureBoot & hardware requirements nonsense which, let's be honest, are easily worked around.
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#123
seth1911
I saw today in a local supermarket a laptop with 8GB and i3 for 599€ but the best at the end for Home Useres it was 10 in the S Mode, for 599€ :laugh:


Nah i dont need win 11, im only need win 10 ltsc for some FTP and Work Software.
But ill change my main system in my holiday back to Debian and make another system for FTP and Work only :rockout:
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#124
Tartaros
lexluthermiesterSeems I'm going against the grain, but I like Windows 11, minus the TPM/SecureBoot & hardware requirements nonsense which, let's be honest, are easily worked around.
Does the tpm thing affect something performance wise?
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#125
CrAsHnBuRnXp
TartarosDoes the tpm thing affect something performance wise?
Nope. Just security.
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