Tuesday, February 15th 2022
Samsung RDNA2-based Exynos 2200 GPU Performance Significantly Worse than Snapdragon 8 Gen1, Both Power Galaxy S22 Ultra
The Exynos 2200 SoC powering the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra in some regions such as the EU, posts some less-than-stellar graphics performance numbers, for all the hype around its AMD-sourced RDNA2 graphics solution, according to an investigative report by Erdi Özüağ, aka "FX57." Samsung brands this RDNA2-based GPU as the Samsung Xclipse 920. Further, Özüağ's testing found that the Exynos 2200 is considerably slower than the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 powering the S22 Ultra in certain other regions, including the US and India. He has access to both kinds of the S22 Ultra.
In the UL Benchmarks 3DMark Wildlife test, the Exynos 2200 posted a score of 6684 points, compared to 9548 points by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (a difference of 42 percent). What's even more interesting, is that the Exynos 2200 is barely 7 percent faster than the previous-gen Exynos 2100 (Arm Mali GPU) powering the S21 Ultra, which scored 6256 points. The story repeats with the GFXBench "Manhattan" off-screen render benchmark. Here, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is 30 percent faster than the Exynos 2200, which performs on-par with the Exynos 2100. Find a plethora of other results in the complete review comparing the two flavors of the S22 Ultra.
Özüağ predicts that Samsung could be working on a major software update that could improve or normalize performance between the two phone types. and that the Exynos 2200 is in need of significant software-level optimization. Özüağ also offers valuable insights into a possible cause the RDNA2-based Xclipse 920 is underwhelming. The iGPU could be starved for engine clocks, or we think possibly even memory bandwidth. Engine clocks play a decisive role in the performance of RDNA2-based discrete GPUs. AMD also spent significant engineering capital on lubricating the memory sub-system with the on-die Infinity Cache memory that operates at bandwidths typically 3-4 times that of the GDDR6 memory. The extremely tight power budget and Samsung 4 nm node could be impacting the iGPU's ability to sustain high engine clocks. We'll keep track on this story, as it marks AMD's second rodeo with smartphone graphics since the ATI Imageon days (over 14 years ago).
Source:
Erdi Özüağ (YouTube)
In the UL Benchmarks 3DMark Wildlife test, the Exynos 2200 posted a score of 6684 points, compared to 9548 points by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (a difference of 42 percent). What's even more interesting, is that the Exynos 2200 is barely 7 percent faster than the previous-gen Exynos 2100 (Arm Mali GPU) powering the S21 Ultra, which scored 6256 points. The story repeats with the GFXBench "Manhattan" off-screen render benchmark. Here, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is 30 percent faster than the Exynos 2200, which performs on-par with the Exynos 2100. Find a plethora of other results in the complete review comparing the two flavors of the S22 Ultra.
84 Comments on Samsung RDNA2-based Exynos 2200 GPU Performance Significantly Worse than Snapdragon 8 Gen1, Both Power Galaxy S22 Ultra
The one I ordered comes bundled with a pair of Buds Pro and I'll also get a voucher which is the equivalent of ~$50. With that I'll get a case and something else from them as well. It's a pretty sweet deal. The thing is, things cannot get worse. They will most likely release some patches in the near future to address this situation. They just released the new S lineup and it would hurt them terribly to not be able to do anything about this.
People like to overreact so soon after the release of something new. The reality is, in day-to-day use, most people won't even notice this difference between the 2 chips. The difference is in benchmarks. SD also had years of just improving upon the previous generation whereas Samsung just tried something new with this RDNA based GPU. They're probably working as we speak to patch things up. And speaking about real life performance, there's not a big difference between Apple's latest and greatest and the equivalent in the Android world. Cause at the end of the day, people won't sit down with a stopwatch in their hand, ready to check the milliseconds of difference between opening 2 apps and so on.
So let's chill out and wait to see how things unfold. Those skeptical about the evolution of this new Exynos 2200 could either wait some more to see how things unfold, or find a way to a SD variant of their desired option, instead of getting this thing which right now it's still available to Preorder in most stores and be disappointed before even the phone got released to the public and has more time to receive updates.
Again the concern is that the same model name is used for different hardware, and i'm getting some... weird fighting saying thats normal find and okay.
Umm, no? It's false advertising. Product should have a different name, if the specs have changed.
(They do this with the watches in dirty ways, 42mm has half the battery of 46mm, wifi has 768MB ram while 4G has 1.5GB, etc) - but the phone models themselves, you just get lotto. Go buy it and see what you get, then run all the tests yourself and see how it compares to the cherry picked superior model other countries get.