Wednesday, March 2nd 2022
Intel wants 700-Series Chipset Motherboards without DDR4
Although Intel's upcoming 13th generation of desktop CPUs that goes under the code name of Raptor Lake, are expected to retain support for DDR4 memory, it has come to our attention that Intel will make a big push towards DDR5 when the platform launches later this year. Intel is apparently already asking motherboard makers to avoid using DDR4 in combination with the upcoming 700-series chipsets and the only reason for this would be to speed up the transition to DDR5. According to various leaks and rumors we should expect to see support for DDR5 at 5600 MHz for Raptor Lake, which is at least a step in the right direction.
What this doesn't mean, is that Intel has removed support for DDR4 in the CPUs, as it's still very much present and is expected to work fine in 600-series chipset motherboards. As such, there shouldn't be any issues upgrading to a new CPU, at least not after a quick UEFI update. From our understanding, it's partially related to the fact that DDR4 and DDR5 motherboards have quite different UEFI code when it comes to the memory support and in turn it means that the board makers are going to end up spending a lot more time getting their boards working, as is already the case with the 600-series chipsets. We can sort of understand Intel's sentiment here, but we're also expecting to see some motherboards based on the 700-series chipsets with DDR4 support, least not from the likes of ASRock that has always liked to create non-conforming motherboards. However, this also looks like it's the end for DDR4 support from Intel, which wasn't entirely unexpected.
What this doesn't mean, is that Intel has removed support for DDR4 in the CPUs, as it's still very much present and is expected to work fine in 600-series chipset motherboards. As such, there shouldn't be any issues upgrading to a new CPU, at least not after a quick UEFI update. From our understanding, it's partially related to the fact that DDR4 and DDR5 motherboards have quite different UEFI code when it comes to the memory support and in turn it means that the board makers are going to end up spending a lot more time getting their boards working, as is already the case with the 600-series chipsets. We can sort of understand Intel's sentiment here, but we're also expecting to see some motherboards based on the 700-series chipsets with DDR4 support, least not from the likes of ASRock that has always liked to create non-conforming motherboards. However, this also looks like it's the end for DDR4 support from Intel, which wasn't entirely unexpected.
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You want DDR4, get a 600 board, 13th Gen will work on it anyway. There are options, it's not like Intel is forcing us to get a 700 board.
They are gonna leave that for 800 boards.
Yep
Newest cpu
Newest board socket
Newest memory
Newest gpu version
Only
But from what I've seen on their 12th gen there was no big performance difference with DDR4.
Almost no one going to notice the difference unless running specific workloads that need the extra bandwidth.
With AMD and Intel both moving to DDR5 only on next gen CPU's I'll guarantee there'll be a lot of shortages given these are releasing Q3. I wouldn't be an early adopter. Also I never want to buy Rev 1.0 MB's.
Hmmm so DDR4 was basically intro'd (en mass about 2014) at 2133 and made it to 3200 (jedec-today), so if DDR5 was intro'd at 4800, we can expect it to get to DDR5-7000 (ish) around yr 2028 ish ??
www.techpowerup.com/285851/samsung-develops-512-gb-ddr5-memory-modules-running-at-7-2-gbps
SK Hynix is aiming for 8400 MHz.
www.techpowerup.com/265356/sk-hynix-unveils-ddr5-memory-details-production-to-start-this-year
AMD would undoubtedly do the same thing if they had the same funds; after all, they were able to successfully push the pricier PCIe 4.0 motherboards ahead of Intel, catching them off-guard long enough that Intel was actually on the backfoot with no PCIe 4.0 counter for awhile and all the fear-mongering of next-gen GPUs "potentially" not having their full performance on it and it took several weeks of live reviews and word of mouth to put that to rest; until AMD actually went and did make a PCIe 4.0-only GPU, but on the low-end (for now).
1.1v nice lol
@ INTEL,
Life is so arranged that you can't always get what you want. So you can take your request and jam it somewhere unpleasant. Right, so DDR4 support needs to continue.
At least in this instance, AMD was clear that there will be no backwards compatibility with DDR4 simply because they're going to replace the circuitry needed for DDR4 with whatever is needed for DDR5. AM5 chips will be purely for AM5 and DDR5, while whatever they might be able to port back to DDR4, should it be financially viable, will be done so separately.
When ddr4 came out it was stupid high to.
Stayed that way for several years to for the really good sammy b-die kits.