Monday, June 20th 2022
AMD Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Launch Date and Lineup Revealed, Spectacular AM4 Rumor Surfaces
15th September, 2022, is when AMD will debut its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" desktop processors. The launch strategy of these chips looks similar to that of the Ryzen 5000 series. The company is preparing a lean launch lineup with just four SKUs—the Ryzen 9 7950X, the Ryzen 9 7900X, Ryzen 7 7800X, and the Ryzen 5 7600X. These SKUs succeed the 5950X, 5900X, 5800X, and 5600X, which made up the previous launch lineup. AMD in its recent interview with us, made it clear that 16-core/32-thread is the maximum core-count for the 7000 series, which would make the 7950X such a chip. The core-counts of the other SKUs are not known. All these models are built in the Socket AM5 package, featuring PCI-Express Gen 5 and DDR5 interfaces. But wait, there's more.
Although AMD led us to believe that it's going all-in with DDR5, we're hearing a spectacular rumor that suggests otherwise. Apparently, the company is designing Socket AM4 processors with "Zen 4" chiplets, possibly paired with the existing cIOD that supports PCI-Express Gen 4 and DDR4 interfaces. The rumor surfaced among sources lower down the supply-chain (resellers). It seems like AMD isn't convinced it could target the lower-end of the market with AM5 just yet, and isn't 100% confident that affordable DDR5 memory will come through in time. The "Zen 4" + AM4 processors would compete with Intel 600-series chipset motherboards that have DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity. Trouble is, you can upgrade your Intel LGA1700 motherboard to one that has DDR5+PCIe Gen5 while keeping your processor; but you can't do so with an AM4 Zen 4 processor (you're stuck on AM4). AMD still gets to sell some processors, and those with AM4 platforms can rejoice.
Sources:
Greymon55 (Twitter), HotHardware
Although AMD led us to believe that it's going all-in with DDR5, we're hearing a spectacular rumor that suggests otherwise. Apparently, the company is designing Socket AM4 processors with "Zen 4" chiplets, possibly paired with the existing cIOD that supports PCI-Express Gen 4 and DDR4 interfaces. The rumor surfaced among sources lower down the supply-chain (resellers). It seems like AMD isn't convinced it could target the lower-end of the market with AM5 just yet, and isn't 100% confident that affordable DDR5 memory will come through in time. The "Zen 4" + AM4 processors would compete with Intel 600-series chipset motherboards that have DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity. Trouble is, you can upgrade your Intel LGA1700 motherboard to one that has DDR5+PCIe Gen5 while keeping your processor; but you can't do so with an AM4 Zen 4 processor (you're stuck on AM4). AMD still gets to sell some processors, and those with AM4 platforms can rejoice.
73 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Launch Date and Lineup Revealed, Spectacular AM4 Rumor Surfaces
It looks like the advantages of the chiplet design are finally starting to show on the user level as well. They just have to get the IHS right to make sure such CPUs don't run like a furnace.
There is no trouble at all. Sell your old AM4 setup and upgrade to new AM5 DDR5 platform when prices are lower.
You would probably have to sell your old Intel 1700 DDR4 board + RAM to upgrade to 1700 DDR5 platform.
I dont see this being a con for AM4 users just pop the ZEN4 CPU into an already existing setup and sell your current CPU to cover some of the cost.
Sigh...
But kudos to AMD for not choosing the keep lower end users on Zen3 instead.
*Chief Technology Recycling Officer, I'm sure AMD has one
Two can play the cryptic game :)
For the record, there will be bad dies and more of them at first. But simply announcing there will be DDR4 enabled Zen4 is not an indicator of the yields.
I think if AMD goes this route they wont bring high performance chiplets to AM4 like those on 7950X. Im guessing these AM4 parts could be something like R5 7500/7600 level at best. Also it's very likely that if that's the case then 5800X3D will remain the fastest AM4 gaming focused CPU having both core and cache advantage over these Zen4 chiplets.
How do you upgrade a motherboard? Do you mean replace?Nvm. Upgrade can mean replace for something better. Need more coffee.
AMD would also need to develop a new I/O die, one with integrated graphics, for those low end Zen4/AM4 CPUs. Businesses that buy i3/Ryzen 3 class PCs in volume would rather not pay more for discrete GPUs.
But we don't know AMD wants to go that low with Zen4.