Monday, June 20th 2022
NVIDIA RTX 40 Series Could Reach 800 Watts on Desktop, 175 Watt for Mobile/Laptop
Rumors of NVIDIA's upcoming Ada Lovelace graphics cards keep appearing. With every new update, it seems like the total power consumption is getting bigger, and today we are getting information about different SKUs, including mobile and desktop variants. According to a well-known leaker, kopite7kimi, we have information about the power limits of the upcoming GPUs. The new RTX 40 series GPUs will feature a few initial SKUs: AD102, AD103, AD104, and AD106. Every SKU, except the top AD102, will be available as well. The first in line, AD102, is the most power-hungry SKU with a maximum power limit rating of 800 Watts. This will require multiple power connectors and a very beefy cooling solution to keep it running.
Going down the stack, we have an AD103 SKU limited to 450 Watts on desktop and 175 Watts on mobile. The AD104 chip is limited to 400 Watts on desktop, while the mobile version is still 175 Watts. Additionally, the AD106 SKU is limited to 260 Watts on desktop and 140 Watts on mobile.Making a difference between a power limit and a TGP is essential. While the Total Graphics Power is what NVIDIA rates its GPUs to run at, the power limit represents the amount of power that can be applied by board partners and overclocking attempts. It is not necessarily translated into TGP, meaning the final TGP values should be significantly lower.
Sources:
@kopite7kimi (Twitter), via VideoCardz
Going down the stack, we have an AD103 SKU limited to 450 Watts on desktop and 175 Watts on mobile. The AD104 chip is limited to 400 Watts on desktop, while the mobile version is still 175 Watts. Additionally, the AD106 SKU is limited to 260 Watts on desktop and 140 Watts on mobile.Making a difference between a power limit and a TGP is essential. While the Total Graphics Power is what NVIDIA rates its GPUs to run at, the power limit represents the amount of power that can be applied by board partners and overclocking attempts. It is not necessarily translated into TGP, meaning the final TGP values should be significantly lower.
133 Comments on NVIDIA RTX 40 Series Could Reach 800 Watts on Desktop, 175 Watt for Mobile/Laptop
Your 1000 watt microwave will still pull much more power (although much less frequently if you game 5 hours per day).
If they were not so afraid of AMD, they could reduce the power consumption and produce cheaper board (meaning higher margin). Having a GFX card that consume that much power isn't free.
Undervolting could be an option, but i am not sure i would buy something to undervolt it. Maybe in summer, i mean in winter here i have to heat anyway so it wouldn't be that bad. But if they are against GPU that consume way less, it might be a good option to consider them instead.
but people vote with their wallet. If nvidia still sell plenty of high power GPU, they will continue to push the power envelope.
oh well, my next GPU is still undecided at the present moment but i know it will not be green, literally? as in not Nvidia? or figuratively? as in extremely power hungry? :roll:
suspense suspense ahahah
I'm so glad I didn't invest in 4k monitor and quite possibly never will, still rocking 1200p and waiting for the 1440p holy grail that likely doesn't exist...
Guessing vnidia hasn't gotten the greenpeace mailers yet :slap:
:eek:
Be honest with yourself. You're prob losing more like 5-10% perf. And in some titles, your 250W 3080 Ti performs closer to a 3080.
GPUs have much higher core counts - and do benefit from having them, because the tasks they are used for can be paralleized massively. Igor from IgorsLAB did... www.igorslab.de/en/cooler-breaker-station-fusion-reactor-when-the-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-with-300-watt-choke-sets-the-efficiency-list-on-its-head-and-beats-the-radeons/
"There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure."
So as how to cool 800 watt i tested some stuff and with my present gear i came up with this novel
"dual tower backplate" idea:
fyi: air cooled 3080/90 cards in this particular position did not fare well
And if anybody knows really good thermal putty, concerning consistency after extreme temperature cycles (about 100c to -4c) and where to get it,
kindly give me a shout and i will test the tec again.
I'm abandoning Nvidia this gen.
Gaming Scenes just differ; one has vsync, the other has a FPS cap at 144Hz, i think in the most extreme situation your looking at 800w, but not on average or "TGP" etc.
I agree that power raises quite high now. If you run a 800W video card and approx 250W for your CPU then you need a beefy 1200 up to 1500W PSU for that.
But it's the other side of the cookie. I think both camps are preparing to hit 8k gaming at 144hz or so and that just requires lots of powers.
Also, the overall push towards higher power draw is just disappointing. There's no innovation in offering twice the performance with two times higher power draw. That's just brute forcing a way up the charts, like Intel did in Pentium 4 and Pentium D days. Feels like we're back in Smithfield time.