Saturday, August 13th 2022

Intel Asks Xe-HPG Scavenger Hunt Winners to Accept a CPU In Lieu of Graphics Card

Remember that Xe-HPG Scavenger Hunt that Intel hosted last year? If you somehow missed it, Intel was maybe giving away some Arc graphics cards to 300 lucky winners. There were two different tiers of prizes, grand prize and first prize, which later ended up translating to an Arc A770 and an Arc A750 graphics card respectively. Now news via VideoCardz are suggesting that Intel is trying to get out of giving these 300 people their prize, well, at least the promised graphics card, in exchange for an Alder Lake CPU.

Intel has apparently sent out an email to the winners, asking them to accept an Intel Core i7-12700K if they were a grand prize winner or a Core i5-12600K if they were a first prize winner, instead of the promised graphics card. The winners have until Friday the 19th of August to decide if they want a CPU instead of a GPU, although Intel is apparently still allowing them to wait for a GPU, the company just doesn't say how long the wait will be. As the prize has to have a similar retail price, it's also possible to get a ballpark figure of the MSRP of Intel's supposedly upcoming Arc 700-series graphics cards. The Arc A770 should end up at around the $410 mark and the A750 around the $290 mark, as this is the ballpark MSRP for the CPU's that are being offered. It would be interesting to know how many people would be willing to do the trade, but sadly we're unlikely to ever find out.
Source: VideoCardz
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76 Comments on Intel Asks Xe-HPG Scavenger Hunt Winners to Accept a CPU In Lieu of Graphics Card

#27
ModEl4
«Intel is trying to get out of giving these 300 people their prize, well, at least the promised graphics card, in exchange for an Alder Lake CPU.»

lol, below the letter from VideoCardz, anyone interested can read it and have their own conclusions...
It seems to me that since ARC is delayed, Intel wants to give the option to anyone not wanting to wait for the launch to receive ARC's GPUs, to receive immediately alternative CPU gifts.
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#28
efikkan
You know it's bad when they are willing to risk all this bad press to get out of shipping 300 cards.
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#29
ThrashZone
Hi,
lol yeah the next press release will be intel recalling the asian gpu's they sold
Saying, okay time to return those samples we sent you guys and gals :laugh:
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#30
_Flare
Mr. Raja is kinda funny makin lotta jokes.
Like: Vega will be smashing Nvidia. Later the public realized Vega was not that kind of gamechanger he claimed.
And also it was not because Volta was not that poor, as RTG claimed.
Volta just wasnt the competitor they would face in gaming ... :D but Turing.
Later Mr. Raja said: "Meh, i always knew Navi is what the gamers wait for from the beginning but i was not allowed to talk about it publicly." :toast:
To me he looks like an opportunistic salesman, nothing less or more.

AMD was so broke and it took not that long (7.5 years) to give us RDNA.
GCN1 Tahiti HD7970 Release Dec 22nd, 2011
RDNA1 Navi RX 5700 XT Release Jul 7th, 2019

I dont know how much Mr. Raja has done to give us RDNA. Does anyone know more?
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#31
GSEOH
I made an account to state that this currently isn't true. As a winner of the Scavenger Hunt I was given the option to opt out of receiving an A770 GPU and getting an unspecified prize instead due to the delays (That turned out to be this). I did not opt out of the A770 and should still get it some time in the future.

The truth is that they are not trying to weasel out of anything at this moment, they were giving another option to people as a result of an exceptional situation.
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#32
Nanochip
Which Intel brain trust thought this was a good idea?

An intel gpu (like arc) can work in an intel or amd system. But an intel 12-series cpu cannot work in an amd system and cannot work in an intel 11th gen or earlier system. If intel isn’t also supplying the winners with a lga1700 motherboard, then the cpu is useless. Also, the igpu on the 12700k is far weaker than the arc a770 or a750, so the 12700k is not equivalent.

This whole release is a severe dumpster fire. I can’t believe Intel with all its billions of dollars is so incompetent… it’s so sad to see this. I’ve never seen anything like this from Amd and nvidia or matrox or voodoo or Riva.
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#33
thewan
GSEOHI made an account to state that this currently isn't true. As a winner of the Scavenger Hunt I was given the option to opt out of receiving an A770 GPU and getting an unspecified prize instead due to the delays (That turned out to be this). I did not opt out of the A770 and should still get it some time in the future.

The truth is that they are not trying to weasel out of anything at this moment, they were giving another option to people as a result of an exceptional situation.
Don't read too much into articles posted by certain someone that has "lost" in his name. As shown he tends to get lost when parsing and reposting information he gets from other sources. In source link he posted below the article linking to the article from VideoCardz, the VideoCardz article has already explain the situation in a clear understandable manner. It has the same explanation as what you mentioned in your post. Its just that some stuff gets lost in translation when its being reported on by mr lost. Pun intended.
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#34
dj-electric
TPU Staff - I know you're doing your best, but the title is simply incorrect. It paints a picture that does not correlate to the reality of the situation.
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#35
80251
NanochipWhich Intel brain trust thought this was a good idea?

An intel gpu (like arc) can work in an intel or amd system. But an intel 12-series cpu cannot work in an amd system and cannot work in an intel 11th gen or earlier system. If intel isn’t also supplying the winners with a lga1700 motherboard, then the cpu is useless. Also, the igpu on the 12700k is far weaker than the arc a770 or a750, so the 12700k is not equivalent.

This whole release is a severe dumpster fire. I can’t believe Intel with all its billions of dollars is so incompetent… it’s so sad to see this. I’ve never seen anything like this from Amd and nvidia or matrox or voodoo or Riva.
I had thought what Intel had said is that the Arc graphics cards required resizable BAR in order to get maximum performance?
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#36
trsttte
The information here thought technically correct-ish is worded very much for clicks. Intel offered a choice to resolve the prize situation instead of waiting for GPUs (since we're going on about a 6 months delay) and that replacement prize was now revealed to be the either a 12700k or 12500k. Only people who opted in for that prize resolution by august 5th can now choose if they really want an alternate prize or will wait for a GPU.

They didn't ask anyone to accept anything, they are giving the option to finalize the competition for those tired of waiting. (I myself will wait for the GPU because why not)
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#37
maxfly
trsttteThe information here thought technically correct-ish is worded very much for clicks. Intel offered a choice to resolve the prize situation instead of waiting for GPUs (since we're going on about a 6 months delay) and that replacement prize was now revealed to be the either a 12700k or 12500k. Only people who opted in for that prize resolution by august 5th can now choose if they really want an alternate prize or will wait for a GPU.

They didn't ask anyone to accept anything, they are giving the option to finalize the competition for those tired of waiting. (I myself will wait for the GPU because why not)
Aww but wheres the fun in reading and comprehending?! Bagging on Intel is soooo much more fun! Hahaha
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#38
Bones
I'm sure our resident introlls have some thoughts on this, maybe one will chime in..... But I woudn't hold your breath over it.

As for Raja I've never seen a guy underperform so much and still have a job.
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#39
Daven
Its very disheartening to see readers attack the author rather than respond to the current situation.

Intel has presented itself as the only relevant chip company and constantly downplayed other tech such as GPUs. It got so bad in years past that technology stagnated even though a multitude of tech companies tried to bring competing products only to be shutdown by Intel’s clout.

It is of paramount importance that tech enthusiasts stop connecting so emotionally to such mediocrity called Intel. We need to light a fire under any company that has the resources to build monumental technology but instead decides to hurt our beloved industry.
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#40
zlobby
maxflyAww but wheres the fun in reading and comprehending?! Bagging on Intel is soooo much more fun! Hahaha
For me it just is. :D
BonesI'm sure our resident introlls have some thoughts on this, maybe one will chime in..... But I woudn't hold your breath over it.

As for Raja I've never seen a guy underperform so much and still have a job.
Not that I advocate his performance but think of it - intel had to work around a patent minefiled or pay huge royalties to patent holders, and yet come up with a decent DX12 GPU with all the bells and whistles, and also performs well in range of games and apps, and also runs cold, and also doesn't siphons 1KW of electrical juice.

Well, the end result is still laughable and I too wonder how Raja is still with them.
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#41
HenrySomeone
Intel has apparently sent out an email to the winners, asking them to accept an Intel Core i7-12700K if they were a grand prize winner and a Core i5-12600K if they were a first prize winner, instead of the promised graphics card.

While this obviously isn't exactly an indication that everything is smooth in the Arc department, it's not a bad deal at all: those who are really dead set on a gpu for whatever reason can still wait, while others can get a great cpu right now.
dorsetknobSo Imagine that i am a Winner (fat chance )
now would i wait for the Graphics Card to be Delivered ( and Slot it into my current best system for no extra $ outlay)
or Accept the offer of A new CPU ( for which i would have to Spend $Hundreds of $ to buy a new motherboard and Suitable Ram ).

Do the Math's People
In the Current Economic Climate its a no Brainer = no to CPU Upgrade
Right...because it's like impossible to sell it on, just how you would likely do with the gpu in case you already had something similar or better by that point. :rolleyes:
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#42
R-T-B
ThrashZoneHi,
Intel must not of realized how much more materials go into making a gpu verse how little goes into making cpu's :eek:
Materials wise it isn't much different. Effort wise it is.
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#43
mama
I don't have a problem with Intel offering a substitute prize. Personally, I wouldn't touch one their fictional GPUs if they paid me. The substitute prize however should be a better one. If they didn't want bad press and the PR department at Intel were doing their job, they could have turned the problem into something positive and offer the prize winners a selection of the first Raptor Lake CPUs.
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#44
maxfly
By the time the gpus hit market they probably aren't going to be worth a whole lot imo. I'd take the proc and get whatever I can out of it before it's value plummets as well. Or use it of course.
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#45
MentalAcetylide
Read the article folks. I don't see anything about Intel trying to get out of anything. TheLostSwede hasn't said anything wrong. To put it simply, Intel is unable to provide the graphics cards at this time and are offering an alternative for those who do not want to wait. Now whether or not the CPU is of equal value/use is a completely different argument... From a monetary standpoint, the graphics card could be a complete turd while on the other hand it could be decent. I would bank on the former(to a greater or lesser extent) since Nvidia & AMD have a much greater advantage in the graphics card market.
This is coming from someone that isn't biased & could care less about the whole Intel vs. AMD or whoever else.
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#46
LabRat 891
Ouch.
This is more and more looking like a historical moment in tech: "How not to release a new product segment"

I *REALLY* want Intel Dedicated Graphics to be 'a thing'; but they're tripping over themselves.
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#47
MentalAcetylide
LabRat 891Ouch.
This is more and more looking like a historical moment in tech: "How not to release a new product segment"

I *REALLY* want Intel Dedicated Graphics to be 'a thing'; but they're tripping over themselves.
I think they should stop trying to compete with Nvidia & AMD(when it comes to graphics cards) until everyone gets on the same sheet of music. As it currently stands, you can't do iray rendering with non-Nvidia cards, so its a no-brainer for me.
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#48
Crackong
bonehead123Well, last time I checked, it would be fairly difficult to give away (or win) v*A*p*O*r*W*a*R*e*Z*, right ? :D
Vapourware is just vapourware :lovetpu:
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#49
caroline!
Arc died before even being released, it's hard to beat that kind of failure.
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#50
Kohl Baas
DavenI’ve been reading many posts on how Intel will need 7 years to really develop their GPU products. That it will take time and they shouldn’t abandon their plans. This might all be the right way to look at it but for some reason, Intel itself is not looking at it this way. They thought they would be competitive right out of the gate and cover 90% of the competitions’ products with its own.

The scavenger hunt is evidence of this situation. Intel management and marketing is most likely being lied to by Raja’s group. Realization of these lies is just coming to the surface. So the question, can Intel still deliver in the long run on a product line built on lies?
I don't think that Raja's team lied. I mean even Jon Pedie says Intel should abandon the GPU project since they were unable to pull it off in the first run. And JPR is not your overly optimistic Intel fan from around the corner. In their eyes, it would be better to trash it than sink more money in it.

I think the question is wether they want to handle this like a regular investment and judge it by those standards or like a "whatever it costs" project to penetrate the graphics market.
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