Sunday, December 11th 2022
First Alleged AMD Radeon RX 7900-series Benchmarks Leaked
With only a couple of days to go until the AMD RX 7900-series benchmarks go live, some alleged benchmarks from both the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT have leaked on Twitter. The two cards are being compared to a NVIDIA RTX 4080 card in no less than seven different game titles, all running at 4K resolution. The games are God of War, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watchdogs Legion, Red Dead Redemption 2, Doom Eternal and Horizon Zero Dawn. The cards were tested on a system with a Core i9-12900K CPU which was paired with 32 GB of RAM of unknown type.
It's too early to draw any real conclusions from this test, but in general, the RX 7900 XTX comes out on top, ahead of the RTX 4080, so no surprises here. The RX 7900 XT is either tied with the RTX 4080 or a fair bit slower, with the exception being Red Dead Redemption 2, where the RTX 4080 is the slowest card, although it also appears to have some issues, since the one percent lows are hitting 2 FPS. Soon, the reviews will be out and everything will become more clear, but it appears that AMD's RX 7900 XTX will give NVIDIA's RTX 4080 a run for its money, if these benchmarks are anything to go by.
Update Dec 11th: The original tweet has been removed, for unknown reasons. It could be because the numbers were fake, or because they were in breach of AMD's NDA.
Source:
@Vitamin4Dz
It's too early to draw any real conclusions from this test, but in general, the RX 7900 XTX comes out on top, ahead of the RTX 4080, so no surprises here. The RX 7900 XT is either tied with the RTX 4080 or a fair bit slower, with the exception being Red Dead Redemption 2, where the RTX 4080 is the slowest card, although it also appears to have some issues, since the one percent lows are hitting 2 FPS. Soon, the reviews will be out and everything will become more clear, but it appears that AMD's RX 7900 XTX will give NVIDIA's RTX 4080 a run for its money, if these benchmarks are anything to go by.
Update Dec 11th: The original tweet has been removed, for unknown reasons. It could be because the numbers were fake, or because they were in breach of AMD's NDA.
146 Comments on First Alleged AMD Radeon RX 7900-series Benchmarks Leaked
I'm probably buying a 7900XTX in the next months, but my experience with 5700XT was really a PITA.
You can deflect with calling it "cope" or whatever reasoning you want, the fact is marketing and consistency is important, and AMD is fighting literal decades of bad press and being the "budget brand" that only recently was improved. For the non tech savvy, nvidia is simply a more reliable brand, a more well known brand, and a more integrated brand then AMD is. This was not done overnight and it will not be undone overnight.
Also, it helps if you can supply more then a dozen GPUs a week. When major retailers are receiving 10-20x the stock of nvidia GPU sot AMD GPUs in the middle of a major buying season WTF do you expect to happen?
I can personally recall several cases (one of which being that "I'll do 3d eventually") of my friends/people I know coping with their bad purchase by conjuring up things that'll never happen/they'll never do, but never admit that yes, they made a shit purchase and probably would've been better off by buying the competing product - ironically enough, they continue purchasing the same brand for which they conjure up situations that never happen later on... I wonder why :)
with that said - I can personally say my vega 64 purchase was terrible (would've been better off with a 1080 ti), and so was the 5700 xt (good thing I rma'd that shit), but the 6800 xt? no way, I'd pick it over the 3080 any day of the week
its 3 days till the cards are out, do we really need this unsubstantiated crap now?
Those lows are all over the place.
1 to 2fps lows for the 4080 in whatever that horse riding image is with the lows for the 7900xt being better then those for the 7900xtx?
also man fanboys are scared, immediately turning to the age old "AMD drivers r bad"
Now, persistent evergreen era bugs that AMD never bothered fixing and falling asleep at the wheel with the 6000 series? That had a bit to do with it. And the less said about the dark times of 2014-2019 the better.
If you want to avoid having to deal with bugs as much as possible, the best solution is to buy a console. PC is an amazing and comprehensive platform, but dealing with bugs is part of the experience.
Besides we don't need all these fancy new gpu's. What we need is this
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hothardware.com/news/3dfx-voodoo-5-6000-recreated-by-enthusiast-vsa-100
The theoretical difference in floating performance throughput and pixel fillrate (plus the "effective" bandwidth advance is very good also compared to N21) is far greater than what the realized performance suggests, that's what I meant.
NV vs AMD
2015 $1.33B vs $937M
2016 $1.46B vs $1.01B
2017 $1.8B vs $1.2B
2018 $2.38B vs $1.43B
2019 $2.83B vs $1.54B
2020 $3.92B vs $1.98B
2021 $5.27B vs $2.85B
2022 $6.85B vs $4.45B
So not trying to argue but NV clearly had more resources, AMD doing pretty well considering this. They still would need a few years of good Epyc sales to have proportionally the same resources for GPU R&D. I think they're trying to compete but it's just a sidejob next to their Epyc business.
I'm wondering what do Lisa Su think about RTG, I bet she doesn't like what they do overall when she looks at the market share numbers.
Nah, nobody can wait that long, so let's believe every (clickbait) rumor there is.
(sarcasm)
For a short period around 2014 I think, AMD was enjoying a good period thanks to the fact that more games, because of the consoles, where build around their hardware. I think drivers back then where considered as good as Nvidia and we had some situations with problems with Nvidia drivers. But it was also a period where AMD was with half foot in the grave, selling Bulldozers and GCN refreshes. So, Nvidia had the money to secure much friendlier coverage from the tech press, with tech press finding in AMD the perfect chance to prove their independence from big companies. While the press would be accepting Nvidia's marketing and excuses to the letter, it would be attacking AMD at any chance given aggressively. Every multi page article attacking AMD, was passed to the readers as proof that that tech site publishing that article, was not fearing big corporations.
So, AMD's reputation was not something that it was totally their own fault. Tech coverage is extremely important in creating reputations and anyone living in a country where one political party is controlling the majority of press(probably every country in the world), can understand this. The fact that games where build in the part on Nvidia and Intel hardware was also important.
And then there are other reasons.
We have the close vs open ecosystem between these two companies. AMD's techs are open source, meaning Nvidia can optimize for them in a very short period of time. On the other hand, Nvidia's techs are close source, meaning AMD can't optimize as easily. That was giving one more advantage to Nvidia to look more capable than AMD.
And of course it's the difference in budget. AMD is fighting at the same time two bigger, wealthiest companies. It's not easy. If people don't want to understand that, maybe they will in case AMD does go bankrupt and we end up in a situation where we will have only one X86 CPU manufacturer and we will be hopping for someone else to take AMD's place and start producing competitive options fast, while in GPUs we will have an Nvidia monopoly and a miles behind Intel probably doing nothing really, considering that, in my opinion anyway, Intel is more interested in server GPUs than gaming GPUs.
We have ZERO clue how these cards perform!!!
Wait for LEGIT reviews from hardware unboxed, techpowerup, pcgameshardware.de, etc...
(Edited picture from this reddit post)
Being unable to hit that target, if confirmed, would imply that there was some major hiccup in the development of the architecture.