Monday, January 16th 2023
AMD Entry-level A620 Chipset Nears Launch, Promises Motherboards Starting at $125
AMD's entry-level A620 chipset for Socket AM5 motherboards is nearing launch, as manufacturers such as GIGABYTE and ASUS have started regulatory filing their upcoming products with the Eurasian Economic Commission (EEC). These would hopefully bring the starting prices of AM5 motherboards down to the USD $125 figure AMD promised. AMD will sufficiently differentiate A620 from the B650, using specs such as the lack of CPU overclocking capabilities, only a handful PCIe Gen 3 downstream lanes, and the lack of PCIe Gen 5 on both the PEG and CPU-attached M.2 slots (which could at least be limited to Gen 4 if not Gen 3).
While the motherboards themselves may be cheap, the overall platform costs may still end up higher than Intel's H610 or upcoming H710 chipsets; as Socket AM5 lacks DDR4 memory support, and even at the entry-level you'll be forced to buy DDR5. That said, what A620 promises is platform longevity, that the platform will support future processor generations that launch even beyond 2025. AMD dropped a major hint on A620 chipset motherboards availability in its 2023 CES Keynote address, when it pointed to "65 W CPUs and entry-level motherboards" alongside each other. The 65 W Ryzen 7000 series processors are already out, which means A620 should be just around the corner. February 2023 is when AMD looks to launch its high-end Ryzen 7000X3D processors.
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While the motherboards themselves may be cheap, the overall platform costs may still end up higher than Intel's H610 or upcoming H710 chipsets; as Socket AM5 lacks DDR4 memory support, and even at the entry-level you'll be forced to buy DDR5. That said, what A620 promises is platform longevity, that the platform will support future processor generations that launch even beyond 2025. AMD dropped a major hint on A620 chipset motherboards availability in its 2023 CES Keynote address, when it pointed to "65 W CPUs and entry-level motherboards" alongside each other. The 65 W Ryzen 7000 series processors are already out, which means A620 should be just around the corner. February 2023 is when AMD looks to launch its high-end Ryzen 7000X3D processors.
99 Comments on AMD Entry-level A620 Chipset Nears Launch, Promises Motherboards Starting at $125
Then there is Nvidia's example where even bad prices are not a factor for some people. In Nvidia's case bad prices are justified and an excuse is the only thing needed to greenlight a buy.
naaaah, will pass, tbf a X50 should be 125 average, a X20 should be sub 100 and imho 199 and above is fine for a X70 up to obscene price level ofc ... for the "Ultra Mega Max Content Creator Genius designer no limits OC'er and other peoples that don't mind the price tag" edition (not that i endorse that kind nonetheless :laugh: ) the cheapest X670E is 290ish chf/$ which is, somewhat, fine ... after all i paid 209chf for a Z170 mobo 6, almost 7, years ago
No one wants bottom end boards that are cheap. Seems to me AMD really shit the bed with the launch of AM5.
Hopefully they can put their ego to rest and get back on track.
So from fairly a budget buyers perspective, what is the point of these overpriced motherboards full of oversized VRMs, full features i don't want for almost twice as much money. It's like they're for 16+ core cpus only with everything crazy in mind.
Not the mention DDR5 price are still expensive. We can buy a 32Gb 2x16GB 3200MHz CL16 kit for under 100€. Or we can buy a 32GB 2x16GB 6400MHz CL32 kit for under 200€. Again doubled priced for how much extra performance exactly...?
Simply not worth it.
This is very bad pricing.
Yeah I am good for now.. I don't mind sitting on my AM4 units for another year or so. I have my X3D for games and quiet, and if I need a beast I can drop in my 5900X for other things. Although.. I am thinking of dropping my X3D into my kids system and dropping his 5600X into my system :D
That was THE BEST. VRM capable of handling 16 core OCs. Plenty of connectivity, ece.
B650 average boards shouldn't cost more then that. A series should be below $100. Even with inflation.
We are in an era of "more than what the consumer needs". So, companies are starting to limit what they are offering to consumers. We can see it in GPUs, where new series of GPUs offer more performance, but not better performance/dollar. In CPUs Intel will remain stack at 8 P cores for years and probably AMD will choose to do the same when Zen 4C cores are ready (I wonder how people will reack going from 16P cores down to 12 or even 8 on the AMD platform), in motherboards we see less I/O options compared to the past and higher prices compared to the past (I mean much higher even taking consideration of inflation), with manufacturers trying to justify this with their support on new standards like PCIe 5.0. I was screaming at the X570 boards NOT being able to split those 16 lanes from the CPU to 2 PCIe X16 slots(x8+x8), something that could be done in $60 boards 12 years ago. Now someone needs to look at $250-$300 and up to get that feature. In storage prices where mostly stable for years, with PCIe 4.0 being an excuse for manufacturers to skyrocket prices.
I mean, in about every hardware part we see a kind of stagnation, probably a necessity for manufacturers because even old hardware today is more than enough for most of us. Only pros trying to save as much time as they can and gamers trying to beat their friend's machine need that extra power new hardware bring.Good for you. Keep supporting monopolies with your wallet AND your posts. I am sure this will lead us to a great future with plenty of cheap options for everybody.
There, I am an example of an AMD supporter being worst than an Apple one. And what the hell do I want? That ridiculous dream of a 50%-50% market in GPUs and CPUs (with a little luck we could be hoping for a 33%-33%-33% in the GPU market in a few years) and people buying the best option, not the shiniest logo.
"AMD Entry-level A620 Chipset Nears Launch, Promises Motherboards Starting at $125"
and the article itself.
ofc these AX20 boards will have a target "people who would buy them" but at that price and above ... it's a nono, even with inflation and the crap worldwide situation we're headed to.
as i mentionedthese board will cost too damn near the previous BX50 generation (paid 90$ for my current mobo, discounted from the 159$ price tag she had initially )
The most stable? Bruh that is not a road you want to travel on with AMD.
Best support? Ditto. Remember what happened to evergreen GPU users, or when GCN was let go VS kepler.
Best bang for dollar? Well AMD used to have that, but now gouges for all but the high end, just like nvidia (remember, the 6700xt was 20% faster and 20% more expensive then the 5700xt, the RX 5500xt was the first example of Gimpgate, ece.) Being a premium brand is more important then supplying the market with good perf/$ for AMD, lisa has stated as such.
RT? Well that's obvious. Other non gaming features? Again, favor for nvidia or now intel.
Sorry, but AMD has been playing second fiddle for too long, and if they do not have a performance advantage over nvidia they're not going to achieve market parity. The halo effect is real. Looks at CPUs, even though ryzen 1000/2000/3000 couldnt match intel's gaming performance you saw metric tons of gaming PCs with ryzen in them simply because they had the bigger numbers on some graphs,a nd once AMD stole the gaming crown intel's sales flatlined.
This would happen in GPUs, but AMD has never had the smash home run over nvidia that they managed on intel, mostly because nvidia has never fallen asleep for half a decade.
Serious question, in what way is AMD the "best" option? The 7900xtx is a better buy then the 4080, but other then that it was always a compromise, better raster with lower power use but terrible RT performance.
I don't care about overclocking, AMD do that already with their default 230W PPT and 95C temperature target; What I want is to see is ECO modes or the ability to reduce PPT/TCD/EDC because 230W boost at 95C is horrible for an air cooler that is going to be screaming constantly as it tries to cope. Most AM4 systems using 120mm coolers were fine at the stock 142W PPT, and we know from the 7000-series non-X reviews that the 230W PPT is really only of benefit for rendering and synthetic all-core loads. A 105W ECO mode will likely get most of the way to peak all-core boost on 170W chips anyway, the difference is likely to be only 100MHz for something like a 7700X3D.