Wednesday, August 2nd 2023

PCI-SIG Exploring an Optical Interconnect to Enable Higher PCIe Technology Performance

PCI-SIG today announced the formation of a new workgroup to deliver PCI Express (PCIe) technology over optical connections. The PCI-SIG Optical Workgroup intends to be optical technology-agnostic, supporting a wide range of optical technologies, while potentially developing technology-specific form factors.

"Optical connections will be an important advancement for PCIe architecture as they will allow for higher performance, lower power consumption, extended reach and reduced latency," said Nathan Brookwood, Research Fellow at Insight 64. "Many data-demanding markets and applications such as Cloud and Quantum Computing, Hyperscale Data Centers and High-Performance Computing will benefit from PCIe architecture leveraging optical connections."
"We have seen strong interest from the industry to broaden the reach of the established, multi-generational and power-efficient PCIe technology standard by enabling optical connections between applications," said PCI-SIG President and Chairperson Al Yanes. "PCI-SIG welcomes input from the industry and invites all PCI-SIG members to join the Optical Workgroup, share their expertise and help set specific workgroup goals and requirements."

Existing PCI-SIG workgroups will continue their generational march towards a 128GT/s data rate in the PCIe 7.0 specification, while this new optical workgroup will work to make the PCIe architecture more optical-friendly.
Source: PCI-SIG
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32 Comments on PCI-SIG Exploring an Optical Interconnect to Enable Higher PCIe Technology Performance

#26
Scrizz
lemonadesodaInteresting. If one fibre optic could carry multiple PCIe lanes... image what you could "dock" a laptop on to...
I mean... that's essentially what Thunderbolt is. The laptop dock part already exists :ohwell:
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#27
TheLostSwede
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zlobbyIt irks me that you need to clarify that. :D
Sorry, just wanted to make it crystal clear, as the press release didn't come with an image.
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#28
lemonadesoda
ScrizzI mean... that's essentially what Thunderbolt is the laptop dock part already exists :ohwell:
Except faster, longer distances, possibility for airgap wireless connection. This is one step broader than the recent discussion about optical wifi, which i found odd and edge case.
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#29
Tek-Check
NanochipWith optical pcie, will that be a boon for external connections as well, and replace the likes of occulink and thunderbolt ?
Thunderbolt uses PCIe protocol, so whatever PCI-SIG develops, Thunderbolt could implement in future.
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#30
InVasMani
lemonadesodaExcept faster, longer distances, possibility for airgap wireless connection. This is one step broader than the recent discussion about optical wifi, which i found odd and edge case.
Really wouldn't a optical PCIE interconnect to a WIFI/BT device effectively reduce latency and bring it up to a closer parity to wifi over a copper pcie interconnect!!? I'm not certain how much latency difference there is with each and what the equilibrium balance between the scenario's would be, but I'd hope it would one would kind of cancel out the other closely.

You'll still have issues with long range wifi, but with reasonable distance I wonder how it changes things. Wifi has already improved a lot on it's own as well, but if you could further improve it with a helping helping of optical interconnect it would be fantastic.
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#31
Wirko
mouacykReally, is this where the bottleneck is?
Yes, quite probably.

If you have a computer whose circuit breakers are larger than an average home PC, that is.
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#32
Nanochip
Tek-CheckThunderbolt uses PCIe protocol, so whatever PCI-SIG develops, Thunderbolt could implement in future.
Very true. But I am hoping for a competent alternative to thunderbolt for certain PCIe applications, thunderbolt can be hit or miss depending on the firmware version loaded on the ROM chip or bugs in the motherboard’s UEFI firmware. For example, early versions of Maple Ridge thunderbolt 4 firmware (e.g., 26, 28.x, 29, and 31) were incompatible with hotplugging older thunderbolt 3 devices, particularly those based on JHL6240. That meant even if the device was plugged in at cold boot and enumerated, if the system entered a sleep/wake cycle, the thunderbolt device would be lost until a cold reboot. Or if you hot plugged the device it wouldn’t work. It’s not until several revisions later with NVM36+ that hotplugging support finally came back for those older devices.

With a pure PCIe connection, such as occulink, for example, you need not worry about any of the overhead associated with thunderbolt… you just have a pipe to the PCIe bus. Also, not all motherboard’s have an onboard thunderbolt controller, and those that do cost extra. It would be nice to have an external PCIe ecosystem that isn’t necessarily based on thunderbolt/usb4.

We shall see what happens. Hopefully the next Ridge from Intel, Barlow Ridge, has less bugs in the firmware, because Maple Ridge has been terrible. Titan Ridge was a good generation from Intel.
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