Tuesday, November 14th 2023
AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors
AMD Socket AM4 users are in for a treat, as the company plans two more processor models in the Ryzen 5000X3D series, according to chi11eddog, a reliable source with AMD leaks. Although based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, these chips feature 3D Vertical Cache technology, which helps shore up their gaming performance to levels comparable at least to 12th Gen Intel Core "Alder Lake," giving Socket AM4 platform users a cost-effective upgrade path to prolong their gaming PC builds that could be as old as 5 years now. If you recall, AMD has formally extended "Zen 3" and 3D V-cache support to all Socket AM4 chipset generations, including AMD 300-series.
Among the two new processor models are the Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread processor with 100 MB of total cache (that's 512 KB of L2 cache per core, plus 96 MB of L3 cache); while the Ryzen 5 5500X3D is a 6-core/12-thread chip with 99 MB of total cache. What sets the 5700X3D and 5500X3D apart from the 5800X3D and 5600X3D are lower clock speeds, and possibly, lower TDP. Both chips come with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, compared to the 3.30 GHz of the 5600X3D and 3.40 GHz of the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D boosts up to 4.10 GHz compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D; while the 5500X3D boosts up to 4.00 GHz when compared to 4.40 GHz of the 5600X3D. Both the 5800X3D and 5600X3D have their TDP rated at 105 W, so it's possible that AMD is using lower TDP and PPT values for the 5700X3D and 5500X3D. There's no word on when the two new chips are coming out, although AMD continues to release updates to the Socket AM4 AGESA microcode, with the latest version ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.B being released as recently as September 2023.
Source:
chi11eddog (Twitter)
Among the two new processor models are the Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread processor with 100 MB of total cache (that's 512 KB of L2 cache per core, plus 96 MB of L3 cache); while the Ryzen 5 5500X3D is a 6-core/12-thread chip with 99 MB of total cache. What sets the 5700X3D and 5500X3D apart from the 5800X3D and 5600X3D are lower clock speeds, and possibly, lower TDP. Both chips come with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, compared to the 3.30 GHz of the 5600X3D and 3.40 GHz of the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D boosts up to 4.10 GHz compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D; while the 5500X3D boosts up to 4.00 GHz when compared to 4.40 GHz of the 5600X3D. Both the 5800X3D and 5600X3D have their TDP rated at 105 W, so it's possible that AMD is using lower TDP and PPT values for the 5700X3D and 5500X3D. There's no word on when the two new chips are coming out, although AMD continues to release updates to the Socket AM4 AGESA microcode, with the latest version ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.B being released as recently as September 2023.
105 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors
If those numbers are confirmed that's quite a drop in clocks, the 5800x3d already didn't clock very high now these almost stop making sense.Given how weird the software situation was and limited benefits the 7950x3d and 7900x3d had I don't know if it makes a ton of sense to want that.
They have to be making new 5000x3d chiplets and saving the decent ones that can run at a certain speed at a low voltage.
I'm calling it. PS5pro to have X3d CPU. :cool:
However i will ad this: While Zen 4 3D was not to amusing. 5800X3D was a pretty good performance boost over 5800X. So o would expsect 5950X3D could potentially be the same. Sadly we will properly never know as i dout AMD will ever make this chip officially aviable. Also in some games 5800X3D is just as fast as the zen 4 none 3D cpu´s or even a bit faster. Also some where it´s slower. But just the fact that with a cpu upgrade, you can get zen 4 gaming performance, with out a platform change. Would be sweet. Zen 4 3D is faster yes, but also a much more exspensive upgrade.
wccftech.com/amd-warns-motherboard-makers-offering-ryzen-5000-desktop-cpu-bios-support-on-am4-x370/
I hope AMD dont continue this reputation but change to support(the chipset, not the socket) it from the get go.
Sorry, but as long as people are buying the chips, then the platform is alive and well. The 5700x on AM4 will meet the minimum CPU requirements for all games released in the next 5 years and more. That is not a dead platform.
What actually happened is AMD has an over supply of 5xxx chips and they need to dress them up some in order to sell them over the 7xxx processors. By doing this they are extending the life of the AM4 platform.
I'd pay up to $225 for a x3d version of the 5700, IF the power draw is still around 65 watts. If it is more, then I need to add additional cooling, and by that point, I might as well be buying a 5800x3d.
I bought a 5700x for my son this summer when his rig died. I'm curious about the price cause I just might throw the 57003dx in there. I expect the price to be around $250, but it could be $225.
I have no clue about the TDP, but the 58003dx is not the hottest chip, so the cooling may not be too difficult.
Thus, my Christmas wish for a Ryzen 5950X3D announcement stands. Sure, it may not happen, but hoping costs me nothing. I'm still going to round out my main PC with a 5950X regardless; a 5950X3D would have just been a perfect endcap to this build.