Tuesday, November 14th 2023

AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors

AMD Socket AM4 users are in for a treat, as the company plans two more processor models in the Ryzen 5000X3D series, according to chi11eddog, a reliable source with AMD leaks. Although based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, these chips feature 3D Vertical Cache technology, which helps shore up their gaming performance to levels comparable at least to 12th Gen Intel Core "Alder Lake," giving Socket AM4 platform users a cost-effective upgrade path to prolong their gaming PC builds that could be as old as 5 years now. If you recall, AMD has formally extended "Zen 3" and 3D V-cache support to all Socket AM4 chipset generations, including AMD 300-series.

Among the two new processor models are the Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread processor with 100 MB of total cache (that's 512 KB of L2 cache per core, plus 96 MB of L3 cache); while the Ryzen 5 5500X3D is a 6-core/12-thread chip with 99 MB of total cache. What sets the 5700X3D and 5500X3D apart from the 5800X3D and 5600X3D are lower clock speeds, and possibly, lower TDP. Both chips come with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, compared to the 3.30 GHz of the 5600X3D and 3.40 GHz of the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D boosts up to 4.10 GHz compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D; while the 5500X3D boosts up to 4.00 GHz when compared to 4.40 GHz of the 5600X3D. Both the 5800X3D and 5600X3D have their TDP rated at 105 W, so it's possible that AMD is using lower TDP and PPT values for the 5700X3D and 5500X3D. There's no word on when the two new chips are coming out, although AMD continues to release updates to the Socket AM4 AGESA microcode, with the latest version ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.B being released as recently as September 2023.
Source: chi11eddog (Twitter)
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105 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors

#101
TechLurker
A Computer GuyI'm basically maxing out my X570/5950x too and going to ride it out probably to AM6/AM7. I just one pice left to get maybe next year. An 8x combo card with 10Gbit NIC, 2 USBC, and 2 NVMe slots.
If I may ask, what combo card? It sounds like an interesting possible upgrade for a home media PC I have. But yeah, depending on how far tech progresses, I'll either be waiting until the last AM5 chipset comes out, or jump into AM6, depending on how many advances there are.
A Computer GuyI'm always looking for deals and it seems AM5 is getting closer to finally eating AM4's lunch every 3 months just not necessarily for existing AM4 owners happy for a modest CPU upgrade from a low or mid tier CPU. For brand new systems DDR5 prices have come way down. Finally some less expensive AM5 boards are emerging in the $150 price range. VRM's in general (as far as I know) aren't completely garbage in AM5 lower tier boards so they seem an ok option. The price differential of a 5800X3D vs. 7800X3D is fairly small, about $80 to $100, which alone seems justifiable to bump up to the 7800X3D in my opinion
Fair points. however, given that AM5 is still "new"ish, I'd be waiting for the last or second-last chipset of the series before I seriously consider an upgrade, especially given early issues/quirks with AM5.

I was on AMD's AM3 for the longest time and upgraded to AM4 only because it was such a major leap, but even then the 300 series of mobos had their far share of issues; most of which got ironed out over time (fortunately, the X370 Taichi was pretty ironclad and topped most reviews). Then I held off on the 400 series (esp. the little bit of drama with some 400s that required juggling BIOS choices), and only jumped into the 500 series (X570 Taichi) when it was eventually confirmed to be the last of the AM4 platform, and a modest 5700X to tide me over until the 5950X came down in costs.

Now that at this point in time, AM4 is fairly mature and stable enough to at least last a few generations, I don't have a need to immediately upgrade to the current leading edge, so unless there's a big jump again in performance and features, I can afford to wait out a few generations and focus on better GPU horsepower. And heck, I'll still be using older, cheaper AM4 for a long while for my secondary PCs that I use for home media or as an emulator.
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#103
mtosev
Wow amd's socket AM4 really has a long longevity
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#104
lexluthermiester
mtosevWow amd's socket AM4 really has a long longevity
I think only Socket 7 lasted longer..
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#105
AlfonsoGR
It's great that more X3D SKUs are launching for AM4 but i'm concerned that they aren't gonna be broadly available (just like the 5600X3D) and (of course) they won't be an upgrade against the 5800X3D.
With that said, I believe AM4 platform deserves to be milked by AMD. A 6000 series refresh of Zen 3 (not a full lineup mind you, just some X3D chips over at the higher end and just maybe some RDNA APUs for what's considered "mainstream") would offer a better-er upgrade path for users that already own the AM4 platform. Performance should be better (as well as efficiency) than 5000 series on these chips and for users that seek the best of the best could upgrade to AM5.
On one hand AMD gets to sell more CPUs and on the other hand consumers of the AM4 platform gets a better-er upgrade than 5000 series.
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