Tuesday, November 14th 2023

AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors

AMD Socket AM4 users are in for a treat, as the company plans two more processor models in the Ryzen 5000X3D series, according to chi11eddog, a reliable source with AMD leaks. Although based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, these chips feature 3D Vertical Cache technology, which helps shore up their gaming performance to levels comparable at least to 12th Gen Intel Core "Alder Lake," giving Socket AM4 platform users a cost-effective upgrade path to prolong their gaming PC builds that could be as old as 5 years now. If you recall, AMD has formally extended "Zen 3" and 3D V-cache support to all Socket AM4 chipset generations, including AMD 300-series.

Among the two new processor models are the Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread processor with 100 MB of total cache (that's 512 KB of L2 cache per core, plus 96 MB of L3 cache); while the Ryzen 5 5500X3D is a 6-core/12-thread chip with 99 MB of total cache. What sets the 5700X3D and 5500X3D apart from the 5800X3D and 5600X3D are lower clock speeds, and possibly, lower TDP. Both chips come with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, compared to the 3.30 GHz of the 5600X3D and 3.40 GHz of the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D boosts up to 4.10 GHz compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D; while the 5500X3D boosts up to 4.00 GHz when compared to 4.40 GHz of the 5600X3D. Both the 5800X3D and 5600X3D have their TDP rated at 105 W, so it's possible that AMD is using lower TDP and PPT values for the 5700X3D and 5500X3D. There's no word on when the two new chips are coming out, although AMD continues to release updates to the Socket AM4 AGESA microcode, with the latest version ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.B being released as recently as September 2023.
Source: chi11eddog (Twitter)
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105 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors

#1
ArcanisGK507
I'm almost sure that these are a rehash of defective processors or that didn't pass dad's quality tests...
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#2
neatfeatguy
I'm not sure how I feel about that. The 5600X3D doesn't seem to have sold like I first thought they would so I wonder if there really is any kind of market for a slightly faster model at 5700X3D or a slightly slower 5500X3D.

Speaking of the 5600X3D, it is down to $199 at MicroCenter now. Puts their combo RAM/MB/CPU price at $269. Heck of a deal for a nice entry level gaming system.
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#3
Marcus L
Are these US only aka 5600x3d?
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#4
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
5500X3D speedrun to dead on arrival even faster than 5600X3D.

Because what people are looking for in a gaming cream of the crop X3D chip is a six core part.
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#5
lexluthermiester
Look at that, AM4 isn't a dead socket after all.

The 5700X3D is the most compelling CPU I've seen from AMD in a while, as long as the price is right.
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#6
Tomgang
This is like torture. AMD think of us with workstation and gaming pc in one. where are my 5950X3D?:confused:

Yes i know 5950X3D and for that matter 5900X3D has very very low chances of ever being a reality.

But Yeah i think as well the new cpus are just more deffective 5800X3D than cant be sold as a full 5800X3D. Reasons can be many like cant quite hold core clocks or smt and or some cores are deffective.
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#7
R0H1T
I mean it's quite clear that AM4 is probably the most successful/long living socket since LGA 775, AMD would be foolish to not mint it till TSMC shuts zen3 production lines!
TomgangYes i know 5950X3D and for that matter 5900X3D has very very low chances of ever being a reality.
Well just don't buy any 7xxx chips, maybe they'll eventually change their mind :pimp:
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#8
lexluthermiester
ArcanisGK507I'm almost sure that these are a rehash of defective processors or that didn't pass dad's quality tests...
"Defective" is the wrong word. Binning always creates a supply of dies that have inoperable cores sure, but many times it's just that the dies will not run at their intended parameters, yet run fine at slower speeds or lower voltages, etc, etc.

Binning is very much more complicated than the general public knows. It's a very fine-grained process.
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#9
RJARRRPCGP
This reminds me of socket 462 back in 2003 and 2004, when AMD wasn't giving up on the platform and made new revisions of existing Athlon XPs.
I actually liked that, because I couldn't even afford an Athlon 64 build in 2004.
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#10
JustBenching
For a platform not to be considered dead, they need to release better products than the ones currently in existence. Releasing worse products than the ones currently available doesn't make a platform not dead. It's very dead.
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#11
lexluthermiester
fevgatosFor a platform not to be considered dead, they need to release better products than the ones currently in existence. Releasing worse products than the ones currently available doesn't make a platform not dead. It's very dead.
Incorrect. For a platform to not be considered dead, they need to continue to release products for it. Stop being silly and pedantic.
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#12
Assimilator
So I guess AM5 sales are going swimmingly.
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#13
Tomgang
R0H1TI mean it's quite clear that AM4 is probably the most successful/long living socket since LGA 775, AMD would be foolish to not mint it till TSMC shuts zen3 production lines!

Well just don't buy any 7xxx chips, maybe they'll eventually change their mind :pimp:
I have no plans for buying Zen 4. Either i get me a zen 3 3D chip or no new cpu before its time to replace my rtx 4090 some years out in the future.

Go for zen 4 now is also a bit waste with Zen 5 not that many months away. So no matter what i would wait. Also because it will be a Exspensive upgrade as i will need new motherboard and memory + maybe a new cpu cooler besides new cpu.
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#14
JustBenching
lexluthermiesterIncorrect. For a platform to not be considered dead, they need to continue to release products for it. Stop being silly and pedantic.
That's like saying z790 isn't dead cause at the end of 2024 Intel will release the 14100T. Uhm, okay, I consider it dead already, but whatever floats your boat.
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#15
RJARRRPCGP
AssimilatorSo I guess AM5 sales are going swimmingly.
Right now, it reminds me of socket 939, where I still have to spend more in a short time, and still satisfied with the generation right before it.
TomgangI have no plans for buying Zen 4. Either i get me a zen 3 3D chip or no new cpu before its time to replace my rtx 4090 some years out in the future.

Go for zen 4 now is also a bit waste with Zen 5 not that many months away. So no matter what i would wait. Also because it will be a Exspensive upgrade as i will need new motherboard and memory + maybe a new cpu cooler besides new cpu.
If that's the case, then Zen 4 will be like the very-early Athlon 64s in late-2003 and early-2004! (Which were just luxury items, pretty much)
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#17
Dragokar
Well, if this is true they have more chips than they told MicroCenter, since they stated that it probably last only half a year in one production run.
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#18
Arkz
fevgatosThat's like saying z790 isn't dead cause at the end of 2024 Intel will release the 14100T. Uhm, okay, I consider it dead already, but whatever floats your boat.
You keep considering that then. If they're still bringing out new chips for the platform then in ain't dead, bucko.
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#19
wNotyarD
If the 5700X3D price slots in between 5800X and 5800X3D's (or somehow brings the latter down), I'm sold. Last upgrade my current rig needs and will ever have.
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#20
JustBenching
ArkzYou keep considering that then. If they're still bringing out new chips for the platform then in ain't dead, bucko.
Yeah ill upgrade my 5800x 3d to a 5500x 3d cause the platform ain't dead. Gotcha
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#21
jonup
dgianstefani5500X3D speedrun to dead on arrival even faster than 5600X3D.

Because what people are looking for in a gaming cream of the crop X3D chip is a six core part.
5600x3d was DED because of limited availability and ridiculous price (5800x3d was selling for $30-40 more in the same retailer.) I just picked up 5600x3d for $155 and the 5800x3d is selling in the $300 ballpark. So halp price for 2 fewer cores is much better than when it went on sale. It priced right not dead at all.
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#22
Intervention
This is nice of AMD to do. Just drop one of these babies in a B450 mobo and get a nice little boost in games. The AM4 platform just refuses to die LOL
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#23
TheinsanegamerN
InterventionThis is nice of AMD to do. Just drop one of these babies in a B450 mobo and get a nice little boost in games. The AM4 platform just refuses to die LOL
Question. If the 500x3d, on sale for prices as low as $220 more then a year ago were not enough to convince you to upgrade, why would a downclocked version for the same price (or a gimped 6 core version for only a bit cheaper) be enough to convince you today?
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#24
john_
I guess 5nm are still expensive for sub $200 Zen4 CPUs.

It's a little sad seeing AMD making AM5 to last for 4-5 years, only to see them keep offering options to AM4 users to stay a little longer on AM4 and don't jump to Intel.
I doubt AM6 will be build for longevity.
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#25
TheinsanegamerN
ArkzYou keep considering that then. If they're still bringing out new chips for the platform then in ain't dead, bucko.
It may not be dead but a EOL platform cannot be considered alive either. As AMD fanbois love to preach, every intel socket is DED because you cant fit 8 generations of CPU into it. AM4 is EOL, these chips are not new either, they're re binned versions of silicon that already exists.

Would be a lot nicer to see cheaper x3d parts and cheaper sub $200 6 core parts on am5 already.
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