Tuesday, January 2nd 2024

Steam Ends Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 Support

As of January 1st, 2024, Steam has officially stopped supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 operating systems. After that date, existing Steam Client installations on these operating systems will no longer receive any updates, including critical security updates. Steam Support will be unable to offer technical assistance to users still on these older operating systems. Steam also cannot guarantee the continued functionality or security of the Steam client and games purchased through Steam on unsupported Windows versions. Users are strongly encouraged to update to a newer Windows 10 or 11 version to ensure Steam and its games continue functioning properly beyond the January 1st cutoff date.

This change is necessary because core Steam features rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome that no longer functions on older Windows. Future Steam versions will also require Windows features and security updates only present in Windows 10 and later. With Microsoft having ended security updates and technical support for Windows 7 in 2020 and Windows 8.1 in 2023, these older operating systems are increasingly vulnerable to new malware exploits when connected to the internet. This malware can negatively impact PC performance, cause Steam and games to crash, or be used to steal Steam account credentials. Updating to a supported Windows version is highly recommended for all Windows 7/8/8.1 users to continue securely running Steam.
Source: Steam FAQ
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89 Comments on Steam Ends Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 Support

#26
lexluthermiester
trsttte(the old version doesn't count, it's completely outdated)
That's not completely true. Yes, it's based on an older distro & kernel, but Valve is still updating it and keeping both functional and secure.

EDIT: just went to look and the download now links to a SteamDeck image? Perhaps they have now merged the SteamOS and SteamDeck into one distro package. It's been a little while since I last played around with it.
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#27
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
To be completely fair @lexluthermiester, Proton has gotten pretty good and is very usable. It's more of an alternative now than it ever has been. Obviously running natively will always be better, but at least we have the option and it's turning out to be a pretty darn good one.
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#28
Easo
Why do do these kind of news always draws out "LIIIIIINUUUUXXXXX!!!!!!!" posts?
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#29
Assimilator
Came into this thread expecting to see the usual autistic screeching about "USE LINUX INSTEAD OMGLOL ITS SO EASY". Wasn't disappointed.
EasoWhy do do these kind of news always draws out "LIIIIIINUUUUXXXXX!!!!!!!" posts?
Because Linux is like religion. If you believe in it, you have to tell everyone about it at every opportunity. Especially when they don't want to hear about it and when it's the complete wrong answer.
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#30
ThrashZone
EatingDirtI imagine if you're mostly gaming, and most of your games are Steam games, then SteamOS might work? I haven't personally tried it, so maybe it's support is not great outside of gaming?

Besides work-related (microsoft) programs, what's your problem with Mint? The experience is essentially windows, with different installation files. I tried it once a few years back, and if I didn't game, it would probably be my OS of choice because of its ease of use.
Hi,
Well the last straw was obs studio flickering on recordings you'd never see the flickering if you watched what was being recorded either they just showed up on replay.
Probably caused by another app's polling
Indicator-cpufreq is/ was used to get rid of the sluggish performance pretty much same as windows high performance mode toggle.
Could of also been a combination or clash with psensor seeing it's more likely it's polling that caused the flickering.

But either way linux is just more irritation than anything I'm not antiwindows that badly yet :laugh:
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#31
maxli86
Haizz yet the core issue is older games will need older OS due to DRM.
Which is why I still have a Win 7 and 8.1 PC so Steam you can cut support.
I can find ways to enjoy old games like physical CD.
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#32
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
R-T-BI can't really think of any steam-exclusive game that won't run on newer OSes. If it NEEDS Windows 7 you can probably find it DRM free or on CD.
Are you makin sense bro?? I think we talked about this!

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#33
Imouto
Imagine having "Linux" as one of your triggering words.
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#34
johnspack
Here For Good!
Just silly stuff... if you take the time to learn linux, you will. If you don't want to, you won't. Just don't tell people it won't run games ect.
For those of us that take the time to learn stuff, we know most of the stuff above is *rap. Enjoy your windows.
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#35
lexluthermiester
johnspackJust silly stuff... if you take the time to learn linux, you will. If you don't want to, you won't. Just don't tell people it won't run games ect.
For those of us that take the time to learn stuff, we know most of the stuff above is *rap. Enjoy your windows.
Context is important. So is being objective... Just sayin..
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#36
remixedcat
ImoutoThere are plenty of easy to use Linux distributions. Even the installer is easier and faster than the Windows one. No tricky setup. No pushy veiled threats about not creating a Microsoft account.


I kid you not, Linux runs older Windows games better than Windows. Emulation is a non-issue with stuff like Emulation Station or EmuDeck for the Steam Deck. For older systems Linux is a no-brainer.
Linux runs better on most systems! including this laptop I'm typing this on! And this is no old machine either... specs in sig...

Hell I've seen ppl w dell xps on reddit to where some parts didn't work in w11 that worked a-ok in linux!!
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#38
R-T-B
EasoWhy do do these kind of news always draws out "LIIIIIINUUUUXXXXX!!!!!!!" posts?
Well, when Windows 10 goes EOL it (and the various BSDs I guess) will be the only valid secure OS remaining for many PCs, so... best start learning if planning on keeping old hardware.
Solaris17Are you makin sense bro?? I think we talked about this!

Am I supposed to not make sense? Sorry, I try to only speak the frog dialect with other frogs.
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#39
PLAfiller
Wow...time flies. I mean I haven't used 7 for a loooong time, may be even a decade or more. Jumped on 11 on launch day...and Win 12 is knocking on the door, so may be they are right to do so.
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#40
kony
DavenThe best windows is always related to your age at the time. Whenever you were 18-24, thats the best version of windows for you.

For me, the best version of windows was Windows 95. I was 19 at the time. Lots of nostalgia effects user judgement of things.
Speak for yourself, not for others.

I grew up with Windows 98. I didn't like XP so I went linux but I consider Windows 7 being the best Windows overall and that's when I came back to use Windows again, because it was simply the best OS at the time IMO.

Of course I moved on as it's no longer supported, but if it was indefinitely updated I would probably keep using it. I feel like Windows 7 was the most practical OS ever made.

But to be honest, I consider Windows 11 second best, despite garbage UI which really needs an overhaul. Thank dog there are software which allows start menu and taskbar improvements at least.
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#41
remixedcat
Only modern windows that was tolerable was server 2008/r2 and 2012/r2
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#42
ThrashZone
Hi,
Global statcounter says differently about linux
Linux only has a user base of win-8.1 one of the most dreaded os's outside of win-8 lol

If you add to linux unknown os #'s you'll only get to win-7 current users but I doubt it's that high in reality but will give them a little slack seeing steam is pretty much giving linux a little boost with their support.
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#43
Prima.Vera
I miss my Windows XP that was running perfectly on 64MB of RAM.
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#44
ThrashZone
R-T-BWell, when Windows 10 goes EOL it (and the various BSDs I guess) will be the only valid secure OS remaining for many PCs, so... best start learning if planning on keeping old hardware.
Sorry but eol means different things to myself and frankly anyone else using an eol os
It's really a vacation from os breaking updates
Hell if my two win-7 machines x99 & x299 weren't in storage I'd be using them daily still without any care about the fearmongering about the hacking bugger man is coming to get me if I connect to the internet :laugh:

Frankly Vista was #1 and win-7 was #2 but this is only because win-7 free upgrade introduced the crazy ass libraries feature adding a lot of confusion adding so many shortcuts to files making some think damn all my files doubled :eek:
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#45
Ferrum Master
ThrashZoneSorry but eol means different things to myself and frankly anyone else using an eol os
It's really a vacation from os breaking updates
Hell if my two win-7 machines x99 & x299 weren't in storage I'd be using them daily still without any care about the fearmongering about the hacking bugger man is coming to get me if I connect to the internet :laugh:

Frankly Vista was #1 and win-7 was #2 but this is only because win-7 free upgrade introduced the crazy ass libraries feature adding a lot of confusion adding so many shortcuts to files making some think damn all my files doubled :eek:
Your party can be pooped by killing browsers on that platform, basically upping security certs and CPU instruction set... basically same as I cannot do any modern browser on a Pentium III due to lack of SSE3 even using XP.
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#46
Craptacular
I wonder how many of those saying they will switch to linux or those who recommend switching to linux will actually install SteamOS.........
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#47
darksf
Made the jump on my personal desktop to Linux (Clear Linux) more than an year ago when Google announced that Chrome will drop support for Win7. If you are average user with NVIDIA don't use Clear Linux. If you don't mind tickling around it is the fastest distro out there.

Even better my ancient Creative X-Fi Titanium works without a hiccup on linux while using EasyEffects in place of Creative Console which is a big miss on win 10 and 11.

To the ones that are spending time jumping from windows to windows My last Windows 7 started for a first time in 2011 on Phenom II 955 X4 with Radeon 4850 moved across several GPU-s GTX460,GTX470,GTX560Ti , Radeon 280X , GTX 1070 , GTX 1080Ti got cloned from 500GB Hitachi HDD to an MX100 SSD , MX200 , MX500 got bump on the CPU with Phenom X6 1100T then jumped to another platform i7-5775C and managed to jump year and a half ago on my current machine Ryzen 5800X3D.

So I did not reinstalled my OS for more than a decade and I do hope this will not change with Linux.

Laugh as much as you wish but this was the best OS Microsoft ever did. And every time someone tells me about security vulnerabilities on Windows I ask him why he don't use MAC or Chromium OS or just stick to your Android Tablet and don't think about security issues , cause the biggest security issue is the user not the OS.
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#48
SOAREVERSOR
AssimilatorCame into this thread expecting to see the usual autistic screeching about "USE LINUX INSTEAD OMGLOL ITS SO EASY". Wasn't disappointed.


Because Linux is like religion. If you believe in it, you have to tell everyone about it at every opportunity. Especially when they don't want to hear about it and when it's the complete wrong answer.
Linux is really common if you work with servers and other high performance systems it's unavoidable to anyone with an IT job above basic helpdesk. Even there most basic helpdesk type jobs now put it as good to have, but are going to demand Mac OS experience along with Windows.

The world is also swimming as fast away from upgradable Windows/x86 and local software towards SOCs non Windows and cloud based stuff faster than a pool clears out with a floater in it so we all might as well get used to it.
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#49
Unregistered
Linux gaming - both the ups and downs - are accurately covered in this video:


Could be the holly grail for some Windows 7 users - who refused even a free update to Windows 10/11. Tho, the majority - still using Windows 7/8.1 - are probably seniors - who couldn't care less about gaming (maybe just some Solitaire or other lite games like that).
#50
QuietBob
The Steam client is still running as of January 3 despite the warning:

According to the official announcement it should continue to work in the near future. But one day it will probably just stop launching, as was the case with WinXP.
Prima.VeraI miss my Windows XP that was running perfectly on 64MB of RAM.
Don't you mean Win9x? 64 MB was the minimum requirement for XP when it was introduced. A fully updated XP Home takes 300 MB on its own. Checked this today.
Ferrum MasterI cannot do any modern browser on a Pentium III due to lack of SSE3 even using XP.
You could try Mypal68, a fork of Firefox 68 which runs on XP. FF68 originally only required SSE2.
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