Tuesday, January 9th 2024
AMD Announces New Socket AM4 Desktop Processors—5700X3D and 5000GT APUs
AMD Socket AM4 continues to be relevant even in 2024, nearly seven years since its introduction, with the company announcing several new processor models at CES. AMD has extended Ryzen 5000 series "Zen 3" support across all three desktop chipset series, including the oldest AMD 300-series, and since all Socket AM4 motherboards feature USB BIOS Flashback, users have the full spread of Socket AM4 processors to upgrade to. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D continues to be a popular final upgrade destination for gamers on Socket AM4 who may have spent a pretty penny building a high-end gaming desktop in 2020-21. The 5800X3D offers gaming performance comparable to an Intel Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake," despite being based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, since it enjoys a large 96 MB L3 cache, thanks to AMD's innovative 3D Vertical Cache technology. The 5800X3D commands a $360 street price, which may be a little steep for some users, and so AMD is increasing choice, with the introduction of the new Ryzen 7 5700X3D.
The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread Socket AM4 processor, which is practically the same silicon as the 5800X3D, but with lower clock speeds, and more importantly a 30% lower price. While the 5800X3D commands $360 in the market, the new 5700X3D is coming in at an attractive $250. The 5700X3D comes with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, and maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz. In comparison the 5800X3D has a 3.40 GHz base frequency, and 4.50 GHz boost. Both chips enjoy the same power limits, with a TDP of 105 W. The 5700X3D gets the same 96 MB of L3 cache that includes 64 MB of 3D Vertical Cache; and 512 KB of L2 cache per core. The I/O is identical, too, with a 24-lane PCI-Express Gen 4 interface, and dual-channel DDR4 memory, with DDR4-3600 being the sweetspot frequency.
Update Jan 9th: AMD clarified the specs of the Ryzen 5 5500GT in an updated slide. It is indeed a 6-core/12-thread processor.
AMD also introduced the Ryzen 7 5700. Much like the 5700X, 5700G, 5700X3D, 5800X, and 5800X3D; this is an 8-core/16-thread "Zen 3" based processor. It lacks integrated graphics, and so it is not an APU like the 5700G. However, it is based on the same 7 nm "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the 5700G. Consider the 5700 to be the 5700G with its iGPU disabled. You get an 8-core/16-thread CPU based on "Zen 3," with 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 16 MB L3 cache shared among all 8 cores. The clock speeds of the 5700 are nearly identical to the 5700G—the base frequency is set at 3.70 GHz (in comparison to the 3.80 GHz of the 5700G), while the boost frequency is identical between the two, at 4.60 GHz. AMD is launching the Ryzen 7 5700 at a $175 price that's nearly half the launch price of the 5700G when it came out in 2021.
Winding things up, AMD introduced a pair of interesting new APUs that should really draw some crowds to Socket AM4 at the entry level. The Ryzen 5 5600GT is a slightly faster version of the 5600G. It packs a 6-core/12-thread CPU clocked at 3.60 GHz base frequency, which may be lower than the 3.90 GHz of the 5600G, but with a higher maximum boost frequency of 4.60 GHz, compared to 4.40 GHz of the 5600G. The best part? You also get the Radeon Vega iGPU with 7 CU (448 stream processors). The 5600GT features 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and the full 16 MB L3 cache available on the "Cezanne" silicon. AMD is pricing the 5600GT at a very attractive $140. The Ryzen 5 5500GT is a slightly lower clocked version of the 5600GT at an even lower $125!
All four new Socket AM4 processors announced today should be available in the retail market from January 31.
The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread Socket AM4 processor, which is practically the same silicon as the 5800X3D, but with lower clock speeds, and more importantly a 30% lower price. While the 5800X3D commands $360 in the market, the new 5700X3D is coming in at an attractive $250. The 5700X3D comes with a base frequency of 3.00 GHz, and maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz. In comparison the 5800X3D has a 3.40 GHz base frequency, and 4.50 GHz boost. Both chips enjoy the same power limits, with a TDP of 105 W. The 5700X3D gets the same 96 MB of L3 cache that includes 64 MB of 3D Vertical Cache; and 512 KB of L2 cache per core. The I/O is identical, too, with a 24-lane PCI-Express Gen 4 interface, and dual-channel DDR4 memory, with DDR4-3600 being the sweetspot frequency.
AMD also introduced the Ryzen 7 5700. Much like the 5700X, 5700G, 5700X3D, 5800X, and 5800X3D; this is an 8-core/16-thread "Zen 3" based processor. It lacks integrated graphics, and so it is not an APU like the 5700G. However, it is based on the same 7 nm "Cezanne" monolithic silicon as the 5700G. Consider the 5700 to be the 5700G with its iGPU disabled. You get an 8-core/16-thread CPU based on "Zen 3," with 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 16 MB L3 cache shared among all 8 cores. The clock speeds of the 5700 are nearly identical to the 5700G—the base frequency is set at 3.70 GHz (in comparison to the 3.80 GHz of the 5700G), while the boost frequency is identical between the two, at 4.60 GHz. AMD is launching the Ryzen 7 5700 at a $175 price that's nearly half the launch price of the 5700G when it came out in 2021.
All four new Socket AM4 processors announced today should be available in the retail market from January 31.
46 Comments on AMD Announces New Socket AM4 Desktop Processors—5700X3D and 5000GT APUs
That being said, AM5 motherboards and DDR5 might cost a little more.
So all in all 5700X3D must still be the best $/performance CPU for gaming and a perfect pair for something like 6800XT. A powerful combo without breaking the budget!
Reviews pending, it'll probably be an amazing slot-in for my 5600X as the 5800X3D stubbornly refuses to get cheaper around here (still around US$400).
Are we going to be getting more underperforming 5800x3D chips until AMD clears out their entire inventory, or is this a genuinely newly produced SKU? I'm not asking because I want to spend money on this...because I have upgraded to the 5700x in most rigs that I have control over...and right now a 5700x can be had for less than $200. A 25% cost for a minor uplift in performance (with a huge uplift in TDP) isn't a huge driver for me personally...but people who bought into the 5600x and have been waiting for the 5800x3D to be more affordable might well see value here.
Thing is , I still don't get this generation. AMD and Intel seem to be dead set on making the hottest possible chips for that single digit comparative performance, and it's basically silly for consumers. I'm hoping that they give-up on this for the next generation and go back to chips that don't toast themselves...but I'm probably going to be on AM4 well into AM6 at this rate. Oh well.
The 5990X, which has a third chiplet crammed underneath the I/O die.
The 5710DEG, which can degrease your oven.
The X0065, packing 12 cores and 6 threads.
And the 5600GTO, which has a full 680M but the CPU cores are all disabled.
For real though it's nice to see the engineers having fun with the Zen 3 leftovers :laugh:
That would show some confidence.
x3d chips dont really overclock in the sense that non x3d ryzen chips do. There is a hard limit to protect the additional cache die from damage, so your really looking at the best version of the die landing on 5800x3d if its not suitable elsewhere. But any chip that pops out the test with no defects, but just cant quite reach those peak frequencies of a 5800x3d within its expected voltage, will become the 5700x3d. The ones with defective cores but otherwise functional became 5600x3d. The fact that that was such a limited product may indicate quite a decent yield of chips at the full 8 cores.
And I would argue that AMD expects these chips to be the choice of folks with older Ryzen cpus, if you have a 2700x or a 3600 right now the difference between it and a 5700x3d is going to be enormous in gaming and very much worth it if you have a board that gets bios support for these chips. If you have a 5600x today you'd probably be happy enough waiting until AM5 has a few generations of chips behind it and just make the leap then.
bending to demandkeeping their promise of support for AM4 because of Alder Lake "over delivering" I think they realized this was their only way to have lower price offerings. The 3300x and 3100x were great but there was barely any supply and they couldn't even justify a 5300x or 5100x probably because yields were so good. My bet is the same is happening with zen4 with the added problem of higher platform cost so they don't have entry level options without using the backlog of AM4.I'll be happy to be wrong but I doubt there will be value upgrading from 5600x to 5700x3d, it's end of road anyway but that clock reduction is too brutal, just wait a bit for further sales on the 5800x3d (i'm anecdotally noticing an attempt to raise the price it has been at for months but doubt it will last)Haha, of course not, but they could have compared with an 8 core part. Price point is a good metric for average consumer but I want to know more, I especially want to see how it stacks up against the 5800x3d and 5700x/5800x that have their clocks "intact". I believe those are the comparisons they'll most want to avoid ;)
(I *knew* there were more AM4 products coming, after AM4 Embedded was announced)
'Missed out on the bargain 5800X3Ds, I'll happily take a 5700X3D to go with my X570 :D