Tuesday, July 16th 2024

Intel Planning P-core Only "Bartlett" LGA1700 Processor for 2025

In a surprising development, Intel plans to extend the longevity of its Socket LGA1700 platform even as the newer LGA1851 platform led by the Core Ultra 200 "Arrow Lake" remains on track for a late-Q3/early-Q4 2024 debut. This, according to a sensational leak by Jaykihn. It plans to do this with a brand-new silicon for LGA1700, codenamed "Bartlett." This should particularly interest gamers for what's on offer. Imagine the "Raptor Lake-S" die, but with four additional P-cores replacing the four E-core clusters, making a 12-core pure P-core processor—that's "Bartlett." At this point we're not sure which P-core is in use—whether it's the current "Raptor Cove," or whether an attempt will be made by Intel to backport a variant of "Lion Cove" to LGA1700.

This wouldn't be the first pure P-core client processor from Intel after its pivot to heterogeneous multicore—the "Alder Lake" H0 die has six "Golden Cove" P-cores, and lacks any E-core clusters. Intel is planning to give launch an entire new "generation" of processor SKUs for LGA1700 which use the newer client processor nomenclature by Intel, which is Core 200-series, but without the "Ultra" brand extension. There will be SKUs in the Core 3, Core 5, Core 7, and Core 9 brand extensions. Some of these will be Hybrid, and based on the rehashed "Raptor Lake-S" 8P+16E silicon, and some "Alder Lake-S" 8P+8E; but "Bartlett" will be distinctly branded within the series, probably using a letter next to the numerical portion of the processor model number. There will not be any Core 3 series chips based on "Bartlett," but Core 5, Core 7, and Core 9.
The Core 5 "Bartlett" series will feature an 8-core configuration. That's 8 P-cores, and no E-cores. The Core 7 "Bartlett" will be 10-core, no E-core. The Core 9 "Bartlett" will draw the most attention, as being 12-core. If Intel is using "Raptor Cove" P-cores, these should be 8-core/16-thread, 10-core/20-thread, and 12-core/24-thread, respectively. Depending on the K- or non-K SKUs, these chips feature a processor base power value of 125 W, or 65 W, or even 45 W.

Intel is planning to launch these non-Ultra Core Socket LGA1700 processors in Q1-2025, but the "Bartlett" silicon won't arrive before Q3-2025.
Source: Jaykihn (Twitter)
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127 Comments on Intel Planning P-core Only "Bartlett" LGA1700 Processor for 2025

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Wolverine2349
FoulOnWhiteI wonder if Bartlett will end up coming before 25. After the 13/14th gen troubles as a kinda look at the hand thing
I wonder too. Would be great if they release the 12 P core version soon. Only if it can be stable and not degrade. I will be happy with 5GHz all core and ring 4.6GHz and 7000 DDR5 rock stable all work loads no degradation and lasts a long time continuing to be rock stable if they can do that and release it in 2024?
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Wolverine2349
fevgatosOh you absolutely do need more than 8 for gaming. Check the new game once human for example, it absolutely hammers 8core chips
Is that really true in any areas of that game Human?

Its weird given Once Human only minimum requires an i5 4460 and recommends an i7-7700 both of which are only 4 cores one with better IPC and HT being the 7700. So it really struggles with 8 and HT??

What about other games. Any need or big benefit from more than 8 cores even in 4K?

I have heard so many conflicting stories on this?
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