Monday, September 30th 2024

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D To Feature Significant Clock Speed Boost

We've known about the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D for a good long while now, and previous leaks and rumors indicated that it would offer a rather significant boost in gaming performance thanks to changes to the 3D V-cache amounts and layouts. Now, a new leak, which purports to show off the official retail packaging for the new CPU, suggests that clock speeds will get a boost over the existing AMD Ryzen 7 78000X3D.

The leak, shared by Moore's Law Is Dead on YouTube, shows off a supposed retail box for the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D that was sent to AMD's partners for marketing, and along with that, he claims to have had access to the entire marketing slide deck, which is where the frequency boost information comes from. According to the leaker, the 9800X3D's marketing material specifically calls out the processor as being "designed for increased frequencies."
It's unclear whether this wording in the marketing refers to faster base or boost clocks, but previous reporting revealed that the Ryzen 7 9800X3D would have more overclocking potential than its predecessors, which were generally locked to their stock clock speeds to protect the more sensitive 3D V-cache stacked on the CPU dies. In all likelihood, this likely references both increased base and boost clocks as well as improved overclocking headroom.

It could also be a similar case to AMD's other 9000 series Ryzen CPUs, which shipped with a 65 W TDP and were later updated to 105 W after it was revealed that the 65 W limit drastically hampered performance improvements compared to the previous generation. AMD even went so far as to say that it would honor warranties for any Zen 5 CPUs that were configured to run at an increased TDP.

In addition to confirming previous rumors about the new X3D CPU being capable of higher clock speeds, MLID also reinforced other rumors that the 9800X3D will be launching as soon as October 2024.

[Editor's note: Our in-depth review of the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is live]
Source: Moore's Law Is Dead on YouTube
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67 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D To Feature Significant Clock Speed Boost

#51
Degreco
phanbueyIm sitting in remnant 2 in 4k at 100-120 FPS on a 240Hz monitor w/ DLSS and 70% usage on the gpu on a tuned 13700k (5.4Ghz all core) with fast ram. Could easily be getting 180-240 FPS if the CPU was strong enough.
Hmm, there ist a CPU on the market that actually doubles the 4k FPS you get from an 13700k in a third person shooter?

As a 4090 gamer in 4k i would like to hear more.
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#52
Degreco
phints9800X3D vs 265K is gonna be interesting
In gaming on lower resolutions, certainly.
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#53
phanbuey
DegrecoIn gaming on lower resolutions, certainly.
If you enable DLSS, enable sharpening from the control panel, and lower pointless “ultra” settings in game on the 4090 you’re essentially gaming at lower resolutions. You can get into the 120-200 fps in most titles with no perceptible loss in image quality (in some cases it actually looks better).
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#54
Makaveli
Legacy-ZAYeah, that's not really how things work.

Anyway; it's much simpler to get an air cooler that can take the thermal load, and put a Static Low-RPM profile on the fan/s, so it always turns without causing any thermal-throttling. You want the noise levels of the fans in your machine to stay the same at all times, this way you can keep them at say, 35dBa and tune out the frequency over time.

Some fans might say they are a low dBA, but they can still be extremely annoying depending on the individual person's hearing levels and the frequency the fan makes. It's why some people don't hear coil-whine from their GPU, while others can, which drives them bonkers.
That is how it's been working for me 6 years into using aio cooling on CPU I never hear any fan noise but maybe I'm just crazy.....
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#55
529th
That's gonna make her lady parts tingle
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#56
leonavis
phints9800X3D vs 265K is gonna be interesting
Doesn't look interesting, at least not when it comes to gaming. Or am I missing something?
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#57
Suspecto
LOL, this guy is a joke and has been wrong basically about anything and even this leak doesn't say anything new, he got even pranked and selling the prank as a leak as stuff from is the most consistent source.

1. We already know that the 3D is being hastened to be released in 2k24
2. We already know they have been working on increasing the frequency of the 3D parts and improving the thermal dissipation and interface.
3. 104 MB cache was also mentioned by someone else

He said nothing new.
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#58
Makaveli
AusWolfUsing an AIO didn't work on my 7800X3D for some reason. It overheated even after several repaste attempts. It's happy under a Dark Rock 4 in a semi-passive operation now.


I get that, but 10% difference still isn't much, imo. If you disagree, that's fine. :)
What were you using?
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#59
AusWolf
MakaveliWhat were you using?
A 280 mm be quiet Silent Loop 2.
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#60
Makaveli
AusWolfA 280 mm be quiet Silent Loop 2.
I'm using a 360 mm aio
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#61
AusWolf
MakaveliI'm using a 360 mm aio
It should still be able to cool a 7800X3D, just like it did a 7700X before that. I have no idea what went wrong.
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#62
Makaveli
AusWolfIt should still be able to cool a 7800X3D, just like it did a 7700X before that. I have no idea what went wrong.
I agree
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#63
Nephilim666
AusWolfIt should still be able to cool a 7800X3D, just like it did a 7700X before that. I have no idea what went wrong.
Has to be a mount issue. I know you repasted, but something must be affecting the thermal interface between the chip and the AIO. The TDP is only 15W higher on 7800X3D.
That said, the 7800X3D CCD can easily run hotter since it is essentially insulated by the 3D vcache.

Were you at the absolute limit with the 7700X cooling-wise?
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#64
AusWolf
Nephilim666Has to be a mount issue. I know you repasted, but something must be affecting the thermal interface between the chip and the AIO. The TDP is only 15W higher on 7800X3D.
That said, the 7800X3D CCD can easily run hotter since it is essentially insulated by the 3D vcache.

Were you at the absolute limit with the 7700X cooling-wise?
The 7700X could just about reach its 142 W max PPT at 92-93 °C. The 7800X3D throttled down to 4.5 GHz and 50-60 W at max temp.

I thought it was a mounting issue, too, but it did the same after several remounts. I also bought a Thermal Grizzly offset mount which was a waste of money.
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#65
aytokpatop
phints9800X3D vs 265K is gonna be interesting
Cant wait to see the benchmarks and choose the best !
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#66
iameatingjam
AusWolfSure, but what GPU does it take to be CPU limited and actually notice the difference? Not to mention you have to be constantly staring at your FPS monitor, which is not a good way to enjoy a game.
Yeah. CPUs may be having a moment - luckily thats not where most games are limited. I've been playing around with ff16 to try and understand it since there's so many complaints on steam and I want to be able to help but I can't because the I only have one set of hardware and it runs quite well.

At first I was surprised when I changed the core affinity in windows to just pcores and got significantly reduced performance. I couldn't believe it. Do ecores really matter in this game? Then I get a tip that, some dx12 games do not like their affinities being messed with so I disabled ecores AND hyperthreading from the the bios. Then I went in game to 720p and and turned dlss on to balanced and guess what - I was STILL GPU LIMITED. I couldn't believe it. And I have a 4090. Still turning the ecores and hyperthreads back on did improve fps, but not by much, only by 3-4%, so, within margin of error.
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#67
leonavis
Dunno what Cpu you've got, but try BG3 Act 3. Easy running into CPU limit there, at least it was.
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